On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 3:14 PM Kevin Fenzi <kevin(a)scrye.com> wrote:
Just my thoughts... would love to hear from more folks on these...
On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 10:05:23PM +0000, exDragon945 wrote:
> Description of problem:
> Default interface needs to be more usable. The following improvements should be
> 1) Change the default menu from Application Menu to the Whisker Menu with name
showing. Whisker Menu Icon only is to small to click on.
We do ship whisker menu, I don't know that I think it should replace the
default or not tho. Size might be due to hidpi? what sort of monitor do
> 2) Set Whisper menu to open by default on Windows Key. Most people are use to
Thats also the key for xfdashboard.
> 3) Fedora logo for the Whisker menu would probably look nice as a default
That runs into problems... remixes or the like would have to change it,
but it wouldn't be obvious or easy to change.
It's not actually a problem, since the filename stays the same while
the image changes. This is how it's handled for other variants too.
When rebranding for a derivative spin/remix, the file's contents
changes to whatever the logo will be.
> 4) Screen casting needs to be built in. Perhaps an
implementation that can go on the XFCE4 menu as an icon that can be pressed to open a menu
option. I am not aware of any casting solution in Linux that works on Fedora.
gnome-network-displays works fine in gnome, but I am pretty sure it
doesn't work in Xfce. It needs wayland and pipewire.
Yeah, though I believe there's a wlroots-based Xfce compositor in the
It might be worth reaching out to folks upstream to find out what the
progress on this is.
> 5) There needs to be a way to handle programs freezing up that doesn't lock up
the interface. Right now, a program ran in Wine that freezes up will lock up the computer
so you can't do anything. Alt+Tab does not work. Alt+Tab needs to work in no matter
what program freezes up.
Thats... really beyond what Xfce can do I think. That depends on much
This requires systemd-based user sessions like what KDE Plasma and
GNOME do. It's certainly a question for upstream Xfce whether they'll
get support for it anytime soon.
> 6) Open Directory buttons in browsers need to actually open a
directory and not open some search tool.
Not sure what you mean on this one, can you elaborate?
I think this is about how it doesn't open Thunar when you tell it to
open a file in the file manager from Chrome/Firefox.
> 7) Folders need to have a built in File search by default.
The light weightness of XFCE needs to be maintained in this new file explorer.
We have catfish... does that do what you want here?
> 8) Consider having default tools installed so people more unfamiliar with Linux
have some default they can use and learn things on. For example, have Gimp and Kdenlive
installed by default. I don't know if those are the best defaults but that is an
The problem is, if we add more things to the default install, the larger
it gets and the more it has things that many people don't want or use.
gnome-software works fine in Xfce, so you can easily use that to install
applications after the initial install.
> 9) It needs to come with an software manager that can handle the installation and
updates of FlatPaks.
gnome-software does so.
> 10) DNFDragora should not have the default category label width so far apart that
you can't see the fact that there are more then two categories describing a piece of
Sounds like a dnfdragora bug/request.
> 11) Transferring files should not lock up the interface.
It shouldn't do that.
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