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thinning f29 kde spin: dropping qt4/kde4

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Rex Dieter

Tuesday, 3 July 2018 Tue, 3 Jul '18

12:54 p.m.

Next step in thinning the f29 kde spin is dropping the last bits that depend on qt4/kde4, namely: amarok (currently replaced by juk). https://pagure.io/fedora-comps/pull-request/287 -- Rex

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Reindl Harald

Tuesday, 3 July Tue, 3 Jul

3:24 p.m.

Am 03.07.2018 um 19:54 schrieb Rex Dieter:

Next step in thinning the f29 kde spin is dropping the last bits that depend on qt4/kde4, namely: amarok (currently replaced by juk). https://pagure.io/fedora-comps/pull-request/287

there si *way more* than amarok and i have likely one of the smallest fedora installs at all with not a single package installed i don't use or something i use requires it error: Failed dependencies: libQtCore.so.4()(64bit) is needed by (installed) ksaneplugin-17.08.1-1.fc27.x86_64 libQtCore.so.4()(64bit) is needed by (installed) qt-x11-1:4.8.7-32.fc27.x86_64 libQtCore.so.4()(64bit) is needed by (installed) qt-mobility-location-1.2.2-0.26.20140317git169da60c.fc26.x86_64 libQtCore.so.4()(64bit) is needed by (installed) herqq-1.0.0-16.fc27.x86_64 libQtCore.so.4()(64bit) is needed by (installed) kdesvn-1.7.0-4.fc27.x86_64 libQtCore.so.4()(64bit) is needed by (installed) audiocd-kio-libs-16.08.3-5.fc27.x86_64 libQtCore.so.4()(64bit) is needed by (installed) kdelibs-ktexteditor-6:4.14.36-1.fc27.x86_64 libQtCore.so.4()(64bit) is needed by (installed) kiconedit-4.4.0-16.fc27.x86_64 libQtCore.so.4()(64bit) is needed by (installed) phonon-backend-gstreamer-2:4.9.0-4.fc27.x86_64 libQtCore.so.4()(64bit) is needed by (installed) qtsoap-2.7-15.fc27.x86_64 libQtCore.so.4()(64bit) is needed by (installed) qt-mobility-sensors-1.2.2-0.26.20140317git169da60c.fc26.x86_64 libQtCore.so.4()(64bit) is needed by (installed) kwalletmanager-15.04.3-8.fc27.x86_64 libQtCore.so.4()(64bit) is needed by (installed) dbusmenu-qt-0.9.3-0.15.20150604.fc27.x86_64 libQtCore.so.4()(64bit) is needed by (installed) qca-ossl-2.1.3-6.fc27.x86_64 libQtCore.so.4()(64bit) is needed by (installed) qjson-0.9.0-4.fc27.x86_64 libQtCore.so.4()(64bit) is needed by (installed) kate4-part-4.14.3-19.fc27.x86_64 libQtCore.so.4()(64bit) is needed by (installed) polkit-qt-0.112.0-11.fc27.x86_64 libQtCore.so.4()(64bit) is needed by (installed) libkcddb-16.08.3-1.fc26.x86_64 libQtCore.so.4()(64bit) is needed by (installed) kde-runtime-libs-17.08.3-6.fc27.x86_64 libQtCore.so.4()(64bit) is needed by (installed) kde-platform-plugin-1:4.11.22-20.fc27.x86_64 libQtCore.so.4()(64bit) is needed by (installed) 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Ben Rosser

4:11 p.m.

On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 4:24 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl(a)thelounge.net> wrote:

Am 03.07.2018 um 19:54 schrieb Rex Dieter: > Next step in thinning the f29 kde spin is dropping the last bits that depend > on qt4/kde4, namely: amarok (currently replaced by juk). > > https://pagure.io/fedora-comps/pull-request/287 there si *way more* than amarok and i have likely one of the smallest fedora installs at all with not a single package installed i don't use or something i use requires it

If I am not mistaken, Rex was proposing we just drop Qt 4 from the KDE spin, _not_ Fedora in general. Ben Rosser

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Rex Dieter

4:15 p.m.

Reindl Harald wrote:

there si *way more* than amarok

Many of the items in your list are not installed by default in kde spin. Many of them are dependencies pulled in by amarok -- Rex

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Kevin Kofler

Sunday, 8 July Sun, 8 Jul

6:50 p.m.

Rex Dieter wrote:

Next step in thinning the f29 kde spin is dropping the last bits that depend on qt4/kde4, namely: amarok (currently replaced by juk). https://pagure.io/fedora-comps/pull-request/287

This commit actually also removes KNode (with no replacement) and libreoffice-kde (so LibreOffice uses either GTK+ or cross-platform fallback theming by default). So it's not just Amarok being replaced by JuK. Kevin Kofler

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Rex Dieter

7:55 p.m.

Kevin Kofler wrote:

Rex Dieter wrote: > Next step in thinning the f29 kde spin is dropping the last bits that > depend on qt4/kde4, namely: amarok (currently replaced by juk). > > https://pagure.io/fedora-comps/pull-request/287 This commit actually also removes KNode (with no replacement) and libreoffice-kde (so LibreOffice uses either GTK+ or cross-platform fallback theming by default). So it's not just Amarok being replaced by JuK.

Yes, I did say "namely" and was not 100% verbose on the content change. The result is the same... no qt4/kde4 libraries should be included on the kde spin. -- Rex

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