As an experiment, thought it would an interesting experiment to take advantage of fedora talk, http://talk.fedoraproject.org/ as part of our kde sig meeting tomorrow, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2009-11-03
All are welcome to join.
Fedora contributors can follow the instructions here to setup: http://talk.fedoraproject.org/usage
We'll be using Conference room 1 (extention 2011), per http://talk.fedoraproject.org/conference
If this works well, we may try using this more in the future.
To be clear, the usage of voip here is supplimentary to our usual irc meeting, I'll serve as a voice-to-irc gateway.
-- Rex
Rex Dieter wrote:
As an experiment, thought it would an interesting experiment to take advantage of fedora talk, http://talk.fedoraproject.org/ as part of our kde sig meeting tomorrow, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2009-11-03
I think that's just useless. IRC is working just fine, it allows participating from everywhere (whereas voice requires a room which is both quiet enough to talk undisturbed and noise-tolerant enough to allow talking, such rooms are hard to come by in office environments like my university), it allows for easy logging and it doesn't require a microphone. And the "higher bandwidth" of voice communication is quite nonexistent if somebody has to type up everything to IRC and read back everything from IRC, in fact I think that'll kill communication entirely, so it doesn't make sense to use both. (And I'm not even sure I can really talk faster than I can type. I don't stutter when typing. ;-) )
I don't even have a microphone for my main desktop at the moment; as for my laptop, its builtin microphone might also suck for VoIP, and having to shout into it and getting the laptop to shout back from its speakers will also worsen the "appropriate room" problem, so an external headset might be needed for effective VoIP use there. As for participating with a regular phone, a 1-hour phonecall to a foreign country (the US or UK) is going to be a big money sink (and I can't do it from the university phones, they're locked for calls to foreign countries), so that's not really a viable option, I'm afraid.
I'll be at the university during the meeting tomorrow, I don't think I'll be able to join over VoIP. People won't like me talking to my laptop. ;-)
Kevin Kofler
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Kevin Kofler wrote:
Rex Dieter wrote:
As an experiment, thought it would an interesting experiment to take advantage of fedora talk, http://talk.fedoraproject.org/ as part of our kde sig meeting tomorrow, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2009-11-03
I think that's just useless. IRC is working just fine, it allows participating from everywhere (whereas voice requires a room which is both quiet enough to talk undisturbed and noise-tolerant enough to allow talking, such rooms are hard to come by in office environments like my university), it allows for easy logging and it doesn't require a microphone. And the "higher bandwidth" of voice communication is quite nonexistent if somebody has to type up everything to IRC and read back everything from IRC, in fact I think that'll kill communication entirely, so it doesn't make sense to use both. (And I'm not even sure I can really talk faster than I can type. I don't stutter when typing. ;-) )
IRC also supports multithreaded conversations. Granted, the onus is shifted off to the users, but picking threads out of text is easier than out of an audio stream.
I don't even have a microphone for my main desktop at the moment; as for my laptop, its builtin microphone might also suck for VoIP, and having to shout into it and getting the laptop to shout back from its speakers will also worsen the "appropriate room" problem, so an external headset might be needed for effective VoIP use there. As for participating with a regular phone, a 1-hour phonecall to a foreign country (the US or UK) is going to be a big money sink (and I can't do it from the university phones, they're locked for calls to foreign countries), so that's not really a viable option, I'm afraid.
Same here.
I'll be at the university during the meeting tomorrow, I don't think I'll be able to join over VoIP. People won't like me talking to my laptop. ;-)
And yet people walking around talking to bugs in their ears that you may not be able to see is perfectly acceptable. ;)
Kevin Kofler
- --Ben
On Tuesday 03 November 2009 02:28:17 Kevin Kofler wrote:
Rex Dieter wrote:
As an experiment, thought it would an interesting experiment to take advantage of fedora talk, http://talk.fedoraproject.org/ as part of our kde sig meeting tomorrow, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2009-11-03
I think that's just useless. IRC is working just fine, it allows participating from everywhere (whereas voice requires a room which is both quiet enough to talk undisturbed and noise-tolerant enough to allow talking, such rooms are hard to come by in office environments like my university),
Same problem here, we have open office and every speaker disturbs other people in the office :( But we have meeting rooms, I can try to reserve one as I don't think it's completely bad idea. But to be in chair of "voice meeting" is much more complicated/difficult than IRC meeting. On the other hand - it can help a lot understanding some issues. And for us - non English native it's much more harder to understand - but again - it's great way how to enhance your language skills. Usually all meetings in Red Hat are through voice conference system (it cost too much and quality is toooooooo low :( ).
it allows for easy logging and it doesn't require a microphone. And the "higher bandwidth" of voice communication is quite nonexistent if somebody has to type up everything to IRC and read back everything from IRC, in fact I think that'll kill communication entirely, so it doesn't make sense to use both. (And I'm not even sure I can really talk faster than I can type. I don't stutter when typing. ;-) )
I don't even have a microphone for my main desktop at the moment; as for my laptop, its builtin microphone might also suck for VoIP, and having to shout into it and getting the laptop to shout back from its speakers will also worsen the "appropriate room" problem, so an external headset might be needed for effective VoIP use there. As for participating with a regular phone, a 1-hour phonecall to a foreign country (the US or UK) is going to be a big money sink (and I can't do it from the university phones, they're locked for calls to foreign countries), so that's not really a viable option, I'm afraid.
I'll be at the university during the meeting tomorrow, I don't think I'll be able to join over VoIP. People won't like me talking to my laptop. ;-)
Kevin Kofler
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