Kmail on 4.8.3, Fedora 17 is constantly closing due to a segfault 11

[Victor B. Gonzalez]

Hello, 

I went through a session a couple hours ago and must have seen about 20 
segfault 11's. I am not kidding, it's no exaggeration, I really needed to do 
something important and I needed Kmail. I really needed it.

I lived with these constant crashes and in fact, I've probably avoided using 
my client because of them, up until the moment, I have no choice. I won't 
write up a bug report because I can't reliably repeat them.

I don't even have an idea about why I am writing this, I guess I am hoping for 
a miracle. I want to keep using Kmail but I am near my wits end.

Any ideas on what could be causing Kmail to crash.. a lot?

-- 
Best Regards
Victor B. Gonzalez

[Eli Wapniarski]

On Sunday 10 June 2012 00:25:02 fedoraproject(a)vbgunz.com wrote:
>  Hello,
>  
>  I went through a session a couple hours ago and must have seen about 20
>  segfault 11's. I am not kidding, it's no exaggeration, I really needed to do
>  something important and I needed Kmail. I really needed it.
>  
>  I lived with these constant crashes and in fact, I've probably avoided using
>  my client because of them, up until the moment, I have no choice. I won't
>  write up a bug report because I can't reliably repeat them.
>  
>  I don't even have an idea about why I am writing this, I guess I am hoping
>  for a miracle. I want to keep using Kmail but I am near my wits end.
>  
>  Any ideas on what could be causing Kmail to crash.. a lot? 
Try this...

Disable nepomuk.... reboot..  renable nepomuk... reboot. See if that clears 
things up. It did for me....

Sorry for the Windowsish suggestion.


Eli

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[Victor B. Gonzalez]

On Sunday, June 10, 2012 07:32:25 AM you wrote:
>  On Sunday 10 June 2012 00:25:02 fedoraproject(a)vbgunz.com wrote:
>  > Hello,
>  > 
>  > I went through a session a couple hours ago and must have seen about 20
>  > segfault 11's. I am not kidding, it's no exaggeration, I really needed to
>  > do something important and I needed Kmail. I really needed it.
>  > 
>  > I lived with these constant crashes and in fact, I've probably avoided
>  > using my client because of them, up until the moment, I have no choice. I
>  > won't write up a bug report because I can't reliably repeat them.
>  > 
>  > I don't even have an idea about why I am writing this, I guess I am hoping
>  > for a miracle. I want to keep using Kmail but I am near my wits end.
>  > 
>  > Any ideas on what could be causing Kmail to crash.. a lot?
>  
>  Try this...
>  
>  Disable nepomuk.... reboot..  renable nepomuk... reboot. See if that clears
>  things up. It did for me....
>  
>  Sorry for the Windowsish suggestion.
>  
>  
>  Eli 
I disabled Nepomuk and rebooted. I launched Kmail and I got an error (unable 
to fetch item from backend), I restarted Kmail and then tried repeating what I 
was doing earlier to cause so many segfaults.

I can't say step for step what I am doing but the general idea is, filtering 
the inbox for messages, then going through HTML messages and clicking on 
links.

Boom Segfault 11. That was my first and I know I have no need to dig further.

I am obsessed with using Kmail because I want as much of the KDE experience I 
can have, I love some of the principles but this is becoming too much :(

-- 
Best Regards
Victor B. Gonzalez

[Eli Wapniarski]

If you afre allowing the loading of external references, try disabling that.

Eli

On Sunday 10 June 2012 01:04:02 Victor B. Gonzalez wrote:
>  On Sunday, June 10, 2012 07:32:25 AM you wrote:
>  > On Sunday 10 June 2012 00:25:02 fedoraproject(a)vbgunz.com wrote:
>  > > Hello,
>  > > 
>  > > I went through a session a couple hours ago and must have seen about 20
>  > > segfault 11's. I am not kidding, it's no exaggeration, I really needed
>  > > to
>  > > do something important and I needed Kmail. I really needed it.
>  > > 
>  > > I lived with these constant crashes and in fact, I've probably avoided
>  > > using my client because of them, up until the moment, I have no choice.
>  > > I
>  > > won't write up a bug report because I can't reliably repeat them.
>  > > 
>  > > I don't even have an idea about why I am writing this, I guess I am
>  > > hoping
>  > > for a miracle. I want to keep using Kmail but I am near my wits end.
>  > > 
>  > > Any ideas on what could be causing Kmail to crash.. a lot?
>  > 
>  > Try this...
>  > 
>  > Disable nepomuk.... reboot..  renable nepomuk... reboot. See if that
>  > clears
>  > things up. It did for me....
>  > 
>  > Sorry for the Windowsish suggestion.
>  > 
>  > 
>  > Eli
>  
>  I disabled Nepomuk and rebooted. I launched Kmail and I got an error (unable
>  to fetch item from backend), I restarted Kmail and then tried repeating
>  what I was doing earlier to cause so many segfaults.
>  
>  I can't say step for step what I am doing but the general idea is, filtering
>  the inbox for messages, then going through HTML messages and clicking on
>  links.
>  
>  Boom Segfault 11. That was my first and I know I have no need to dig
>  further.
>  
>  I am obsessed with using Kmail because I want as much of the KDE experience
>  I can have, I love some of the principles but this is becoming too much :( 
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[Victor B. Gonzalez]

It looks like you might be on to something. I don't load the external 
references automatically so I decided to go click crazy in the pattern I 
usually find myself crashing Kmail and it didn't crash.

I am guessing this is a known bug, any workarounds or is it being addressed 
and possibly fixed? I've got new ammo to google, thanks!


On Sunday, June 10, 2012 09:03:01 AM you wrote:
>  If you afre allowing the loading of external references, try
> disabling that.
>  
>  Eli
>  
>  On Sunday 10 June 2012 01:04:02 Victor B. Gonzalez wrote:
>  > On Sunday, June 10, 2012 07:32:25 AM you wrote:
>  > > On Sunday 10 June 2012 00:25:02 fedoraproject(a)vbgunz.com wrote:
>  > > > Hello,
>  > > > 
>  > > > I went through a session a couple hours ago and must have seen about
>  > > > 20
>  > > > segfault 11's. I am not kidding, it's no exaggeration, I really
> needed
>  > > > to
>  > > > do something important and I needed Kmail. I really needed it.
>  > > > 
>  > > > I lived with these constant crashes and in fact, I've probably
> avoided
>  > > > using my client because of them, up until the moment, I have no
>  > > > choice.
>  > > > I
>  > > > won't write up a bug report because I can't reliably repeat them.
>  > > > 
>  > > > I don't even have an idea about why I am writing this, I guess I am
>  > > > hoping
>  > > > for a miracle. I want to keep using Kmail but I am near my wits end.
>  > > > 
>  > > > Any ideas on what could be causing Kmail to crash.. a lot?
>  > > 
>  > > Try this...
>  > > 
>  > > Disable nepomuk.... reboot..  renable nepomuk... reboot. See if that
>  > > clears
>  > > things up. It did for me....
>  > > 
>  > > Sorry for the Windowsish suggestion.
>  > > 
>  > > 
>  > > Eli
>  > 
>  > I disabled Nepomuk and rebooted. I launched Kmail and I got an error
>  > (unable to fetch item from backend), I restarted Kmail and then tried
>  > repeating what I was doing earlier to cause so many segfaults.
>  > 
>  > I can't say step for step what I am doing but the general idea is,
>  > filtering the inbox for messages, then going through HTML messages and
>  > clicking on links.
>  > 
>  > Boom Segfault 11. That was my first and I know I have no need to dig
>  > further.
>  > 
>  > I am obsessed with using Kmail because I want as much of the KDE
>  > experience
>  > I can have, I love some of the principles but this is becoming too much :( 
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Best Regards
Victor B. Gonzalez

[Eli Wapniarski]

Yes... It is a known bug... Its been sitting in kde's bugzilla for  
over a year..... I guess they will fix it when they get a round-to-it.


Anybody have any spare round-to-its to give them. :)

Eli


Quoting "Victor B. Gonzalez" <fedoraproject(a)vbgunz.com&gt;:

>  It looks like you might be on to something. I don't load the
> external
>  references automatically so I decided to go click crazy in the pattern I
>  usually find myself crashing Kmail and it didn't crash.
>
>  I am guessing this is a known bug, any workarounds or is it being addressed
>  and possibly fixed? I've got new ammo to google, thanks!
>
>
>  On Sunday, June 10, 2012 09:03:01 AM you wrote:
> > If you afre allowing the loading of external references, try disabling that.
> >
> > Eli
> >
> > On Sunday 10 June 2012 01:04:02 Victor B. Gonzalez wrote:
> > > On Sunday, June 10, 2012 07:32:25 AM you wrote:
> > > > On Sunday 10 June 2012 00:25:02 fedoraproject(a)vbgunz.com wrote:
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > I went through a session a couple hours ago and must have seen about
> > > > > 20
> > > > > segfault 11's. I am not kidding, it's no exaggeration, I
> really needed
> > > > > to
> > > > > do something important and I needed Kmail. I really needed it.
> > > > >
> > > > > I lived with these constant crashes and in fact, I've probably
> avoided
> > > > > using my client because of them, up until the moment, I have no
> > > > > choice.
> > > > > I
> > > > > won't write up a bug report because I can't reliably repeat
> them.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't even have an idea about why I am writing this, I guess I
> am
> > > > > hoping
> > > > > for a miracle. I want to keep using Kmail but I am near my wits end.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any ideas on what could be causing Kmail to crash.. a lot?
> > > >
> > > > Try this...
> > > >
> > > > Disable nepomuk.... reboot..  renable nepomuk... reboot. See if that
> > > > clears
> > > > things up. It did for me....
> > > >
> > > > Sorry for the Windowsish suggestion.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Eli
> > >
> > > I disabled Nepomuk and rebooted. I launched Kmail and I got an error
> > > (unable to fetch item from backend), I restarted Kmail and then tried
> > > repeating what I was doing earlier to cause so many segfaults.
> > >
> > > I can't say step for step what I am doing but the general idea is,
> > > filtering the inbox for messages, then going through HTML messages and
> > > clicking on links.
> > >
> > > Boom Segfault 11. That was my first and I know I have no need to dig
> > > further.
> > >
> > > I am obsessed with using Kmail because I want as much of the KDE
> > > experience
> > > I can have, I love some of the principles but this is becoming too much :(
>  --
>  Best Regards
>  Victor B. Gonzalez
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[Victor B. Gonzalez]

I'm a bit happy. I found the bug report thanks to you Eli. I was going over it 
and I got two ideas out of it. The first was to switch from webkit to KHTML in 
Konqueror. I haven't used Konqueror in a long time so I did that *but* I was 
able to recreate the crash.

That alone didn't solve the problem but I left KHTML selected.

Further down in the bug report a user said "disable the cache in Konqueror" 
and so I did that and so far, no crashing. I mean, I followed my pattern for a 
little while and it never crashed. I haven't lost my faith completely but I 
wouldn't be surprised I get a crash soon but so far so good.

The bug report I found is here https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=286307

Thanks Eli, hopefully I won't see a crash in a while.

On Sunday, June 10, 2012 11:29:10 AM Eli Wapniarski wrote:
>  Yes... It is a known bug... Its been sitting in kde's bugzilla
> for
>  over a year..... I guess they will fix it when they get a round-to-it.
>  
>  
>  Anybody have any spare round-to-its to give them. :)
>  
>  Eli
>  
>  Quoting "Victor B. Gonzalez" <fedoraproject(a)vbgunz.com&gt;:
>  > It looks like you might be on to something. I don't load the external
>  > references automatically so I decided to go click crazy in the pattern I
>  > usually find myself crashing Kmail and it didn't crash.
>  > 
>  > I am guessing this is a known bug, any workarounds or is it being
>  > addressed
>  > and possibly fixed? I've got new ammo to google, thanks!
>  > 
>  > On Sunday, June 10, 2012 09:03:01 AM you wrote:
>  >> If you afre allowing the loading of external references, try disabling
>  >> that.
>  >> 
>  >> Eli
>  >> 
>  >> On Sunday 10 June 2012 01:04:02 Victor B. Gonzalez wrote:
>  >> > On Sunday, June 10, 2012 07:32:25 AM you wrote:
>  >> > > On Sunday 10 June 2012 00:25:02 fedoraproject(a)vbgunz.com wrote:
>  >> > > > Hello,
>  >> > > > 
>  >> > > > I went through a session a couple hours ago and must have seen
>  >> > > > about
>  >> > > > 20
>  >> > > > segfault 11's. I am not kidding, it's no exaggeration, I
> really
>  >> > > > needed
>  >> > > > to
>  >> > > > do something important and I needed Kmail. I really needed it.
>  >> > > > 
>  >> > > > I lived with these constant crashes and in fact, I've
> probably
>  >> > > > avoided
>  >> > > > using my client because of them, up until the moment, I have no
>  >> > > > choice.
>  >> > > > I
>  >> > > > won't write up a bug report because I can't reliably
> repeat them.
>  >> > > > 
>  >> > > > I don't even have an idea about why I am writing this, I
> guess I am
>  >> > > > hoping
>  >> > > > for a miracle. I want to keep using Kmail but I am near my wits
>  >> > > > end.
>  >> > > > 
>  >> > > > Any ideas on what could be causing Kmail to crash.. a lot?
>  >> > > 
>  >> > > Try this...
>  >> > > 
>  >> > > Disable nepomuk.... reboot..  renable nepomuk... reboot. See if that
>  >> > > clears
>  >> > > things up. It did for me....
>  >> > > 
>  >> > > Sorry for the Windowsish suggestion.
>  >> > > 
>  >> > > 
>  >> > > Eli
>  >> > 
>  >> > I disabled Nepomuk and rebooted. I launched Kmail and I got an error
>  >> > (unable to fetch item from backend), I restarted Kmail and then tried
>  >> > repeating what I was doing earlier to cause so many segfaults.
>  >> > 
>  >> > I can't say step for step what I am doing but the general idea is,
>  >> > filtering the inbox for messages, then going through HTML messages and
>  >> > clicking on links.
>  >> > 
>  >> > Boom Segfault 11. That was my first and I know I have no need to dig
>  >> > further.
>  >> > 
>  >> > I am obsessed with using Kmail because I want as much of the KDE
>  >> > experience
>  >> > I can have, I love some of the principles but this is becoming too much
>  >> > :(
>  > 
>  > --
>  > Best Regards
>  > Victor B. Gonzalez
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[Eli Wapniarski]

Disable cacheing?  huh.... Gonna try that. Hopefully this will work.  
And me too... Haven't used Konqueror in a very very long time

Eli

Quoting "Victor B. Gonzalez" <fedoraproject(a)vbgunz.com&gt;:

>  I'm a bit happy. I found the bug report thanks to you Eli. I was 
>
>  going over it
>  and I got two ideas out of it. The first was to switch from webkit  
>  to KHTML in
>  Konqueror. I haven't used Konqueror in a long time so I did that *but* I was
>  able to recreate the crash.
>
>  That alone didn't solve the problem but I left KHTML selected.
>
>  Further down in the bug report a user said "disable the cache in Konqueror"
>  and so I did that and so far, no crashing. I mean, I followed my  
>  pattern for a
>  little while and it never crashed. I haven't lost my faith completely but I
>  wouldn't be surprised I get a crash soon but so far so good.
>
>  The bug report I found is here https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=286307
>
>  Thanks Eli, hopefully I won't see a crash in a while.
>
>  On Sunday, June 10, 2012 11:29:10 AM Eli Wapniarski wrote:
> > Yes... It is a known bug... Its been sitting in kde's bugzilla for
> > over a year..... I guess they will fix it when they get a round-to-it.
> >
> >
> > Anybody have any spare round-to-its to give them. :)
> >
> > Eli
> >
> > Quoting "Victor B. Gonzalez" <fedoraproject(a)vbgunz.com&gt;:
> > > It looks like you might be on to something. I don't load the external
> > > references automatically so I decided to go click crazy in the pattern I
> > > usually find myself crashing Kmail and it didn't crash.
> > >
> > > I am guessing this is a known bug, any workarounds or is it being
> > > addressed
> > > and possibly fixed? I've got new ammo to google, thanks!
> > >
> > > On Sunday, June 10, 2012 09:03:01 AM you wrote:
> > >> If you afre allowing the loading of external references, try disabling
> > >> that.
> > >>
> > >> Eli
> > >>
> > >> On Sunday 10 June 2012 01:04:02 Victor B. Gonzalez wrote:
> > >> > On Sunday, June 10, 2012 07:32:25 AM you wrote:
> > >> > > On Sunday 10 June 2012 00:25:02 fedoraproject(a)vbgunz.com wrote:
> > >> > > > Hello,
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > I went through a session a couple hours ago and must have
> seen
> > >> > > > about
> > >> > > > 20
> > >> > > > segfault 11's. I am not kidding, it's no
> exaggeration, I really
> > >> > > > needed
> > >> > > > to
> > >> > > > do something important and I needed Kmail. I really needed
> it.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > I lived with these constant crashes and in fact, I've
> probably
> > >> > > > avoided
> > >> > > > using my client because of them, up until the moment, I have
> no
> > >> > > > choice.
> > >> > > > I
> > >> > > > won't write up a bug report because I can't reliably
> repeat them.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > I don't even have an idea about why I am writing this, I
> guess I am
> > >> > > > hoping
> > >> > > > for a miracle. I want to keep using Kmail but I am near my
> wits
> > >> > > > end.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Any ideas on what could be causing Kmail to crash.. a lot?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Try this...
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Disable nepomuk.... reboot..  renable nepomuk... reboot. See if
> that
> > >> > > clears
> > >> > > things up. It did for me....
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Sorry for the Windowsish suggestion.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Eli
> > >> >
> > >> > I disabled Nepomuk and rebooted. I launched Kmail and I got an error
> > >> > (unable to fetch item from backend), I restarted Kmail and then tried
> > >> > repeating what I was doing earlier to cause so many segfaults.
> > >> >
> > >> > I can't say step for step what I am doing but the general idea is,
> > >> > filtering the inbox for messages, then going through HTML messages and
> > >> > clicking on links.
> > >> >
> > >> > Boom Segfault 11. That was my first and I know I have no need to dig
> > >> > further.
> > >> >
> > >> > I am obsessed with using Kmail because I want as much of the KDE
> > >> > experience
> > >> > I can have, I love some of the principles but this is becoming too
> much
> > >> > :(
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best Regards
> > > Victor B. Gonzalez
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > kde(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
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It seems to work better.... I will let you know after a few days using or the 
first crash.

Eli

On Sunday 10 June 2012 04:39:18 Victor B. Gonzalez wrote:
>  I'm a bit happy. I found the bug report thanks to you Eli. I was
> going over
>  it and I got two ideas out of it. The first was to switch from webkit to
>  KHTML in Konqueror. I haven't used Konqueror in a long time so I did that
>  *but* I was able to recreate the crash.
>  
>  That alone didn't solve the problem but I left KHTML selected.
>  
>  Further down in the bug report a user said "disable the cache in Konqueror"
>  and so I did that and so far, no crashing. I mean, I followed my pattern for
>  a little while and it never crashed. I haven't lost my faith completely but
>  I wouldn't be surprised I get a crash soon but so far so good.
>  
>  The bug report I found is here https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=286307
>  
>  Thanks Eli, hopefully I won't see a crash in a while.
>  
>  On Sunday, June 10, 2012 11:29:10 AM Eli Wapniarski wrote:
>  > Yes... It is a known bug... Its been sitting in kde's bugzilla for
>  > over a year..... I guess they will fix it when they get a round-to-it.
>  > 
>  > 
>  > Anybody have any spare round-to-its to give them. :)
>  > 
>  > Eli
>  > 
>  > Quoting "Victor B. Gonzalez" <fedoraproject(a)vbgunz.com&gt;:
>  > > It looks like you might be on to something. I don't load the external
>  > > references automatically so I decided to go click crazy in the pattern I
>  > > usually find myself crashing Kmail and it didn't crash.
>  > > 
>  > > I am guessing this is a known bug, any workarounds or is it being
>  > > addressed
>  > > and possibly fixed? I've got new ammo to google, thanks!
>  > > 
>  > > On Sunday, June 10, 2012 09:03:01 AM you wrote:
>  > >> If you afre allowing the loading of external references, try disabling
>  > >> that.
>  > >> 
>  > >> Eli
>  > >> 
>  > >> On Sunday 10 June 2012 01:04:02 Victor B. Gonzalez wrote:
>  > >> > On Sunday, June 10, 2012 07:32:25 AM you wrote:
>  > >> > > On Sunday 10 June 2012 00:25:02 fedoraproject(a)vbgunz.com wrote:
>  > >> > > > Hello,
>  > >> > > > 
>  > >> > > > I went through a session a couple hours ago and must have
> seen
>  > >> > > > about
>  > >> > > > 20
>  > >> > > > segfault 11's. I am not kidding, it's no
> exaggeration, I really
>  > >> > > > needed
>  > >> > > > to
>  > >> > > > do something important and I needed Kmail. I really needed
> it.
>  > >> > > > 
>  > >> > > > I lived with these constant crashes and in fact, I've
> probably
>  > >> > > > avoided
>  > >> > > > using my client because of them, up until the moment, I have
> no
>  > >> > > > choice.
>  > >> > > > I
>  > >> > > > won't write up a bug report because I can't reliably
> repeat them.
>  > >> > > > 
>  > >> > > > I don't even have an idea about why I am writing this, I
> guess I
>  > >> > > > am
>  > >> > > > hoping
>  > >> > > > for a miracle. I want to keep using Kmail but I am near my
> wits
>  > >> > > > end.
>  > >> > > > 
>  > >> > > > Any ideas on what could be causing Kmail to crash.. a lot?
>  > >> > > 
>  > >> > > Try this...
>  > >> > > 
>  > >> > > Disable nepomuk.... reboot..  renable nepomuk... reboot. See if
>  > >> > > that
>  > >> > > clears
>  > >> > > things up. It did for me....
>  > >> > > 
>  > >> > > Sorry for the Windowsish suggestion.
>  > >> > > 
>  > >> > > 
>  > >> > > Eli
>  > >> > 
>  > >> > I disabled Nepomuk and rebooted. I launched Kmail and I got an error
>  > >> > (unable to fetch item from backend), I restarted Kmail and then tried
>  > >> > repeating what I was doing earlier to cause so many segfaults.
>  > >> > 
>  > >> > I can't say step for step what I am doing but the general idea
> is,
>  > >> > filtering the inbox for messages, then going through HTML messages
>  > >> > and
>  > >> > clicking on links.
>  > >> > 
>  > >> > Boom Segfault 11. That was my first and I know I have no need to dig
>  > >> > further.
>  > >> > 
>  > >> > I am obsessed with using Kmail because I want as much of the KDE
>  > >> > experience
>  > >> > I can have, I love some of the principles but this is becoming too
>  > >> > much
>  > >> > 
>  > >> > :(
>  > > 
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>  > > Victor B. Gonzalez
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On 06/10/2012 03:19 AM, Victor B. Gonzalez wrote:
>  It looks like you might be on to something. I don't load the
> external
>  references automatically so I decided to go click crazy in the pattern I
>  usually find myself crashing Kmail and it didn't crash.
>
>  I am guessing this is a known bug, any workarounds or is it being addressed
>  and possibly fixed? I've got new ammo to google, thanks! 
In my experience, this is related to having and old (< 11.2 version) 
flash-plugin installed *and* defaulting konq to using webkit over khtml.

Does this match your setup?

(though having a backtrace could help confirm that or not)

-- rex

[Eli Wapniarski]

Nope... Configured khtml and I have the latest greatest installed from adobe's 
repo.

Eli

On Sunday 10 June 2012 09:08:13 Rex Dieter wrote:
>  On 06/10/2012 03:19 AM, Victor B. Gonzalez wrote:
>  > It looks like you might be on to something. I don't load the external
>  > references automatically so I decided to go click crazy in the pattern I
>  > usually find myself crashing Kmail and it didn't crash.
>  > 
>  > I am guessing this is a known bug, any workarounds or is it being
>  > addressed
>  > and possibly fixed? I've got new ammo to google, thanks!
>  
>  In my experience, this is related to having and old (< 11.2 version)
>  flash-plugin installed *and* defaulting konq to using webkit over khtml.
>  
>  Does this match your setup?
>  
>  (though having a backtrace could help confirm that or not)
>  
>  -- rex
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On 06/10/2012 11:20 AM, Eli Wapniarski wrote:
>  Nope... Configured khtml and I have the latest greatest installed
> from adobe's
>  repo. 
OK, strange then.  that's when my crashes stop happening.

-- rex

>  On Sunday 10 June 2012 09:08:13 Rex Dieter wrote:
> > On 06/10/2012 03:19 AM, Victor B. Gonzalez wrote:
> >> It looks like you might be on to something. I don't load the external
> >> references automatically so I decided to go click crazy in the pattern I
> >> usually find myself crashing Kmail and it didn't crash.
> >>
> >> I am guessing this is a known bug, any workarounds or is it being
> >> addressed
> >> and possibly fixed? I've got new ammo to google, thanks!
> >
> > In my experience, this is related to having and old (< 11.2 version)
> > flash-plugin installed *and* defaulting konq to using webkit over khtml.
> >
> > Does this match your setup?
> >
> > (though having a backtrace could help confirm that or not)
> >
> > -- rex
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[Victor B. Gonzalez]

I have flash-plugin version 11.2.202.236, on Fedora 17 64, using KDE 4.8.3. I 
was really happy that disabling cache and probably switching webkit to KHTML 
helped *but* this morning, after resuming from a suspend, I switched from a 
sub-folder that contains this mailing list to my inbox and Kmail crashed with 
a segfault 11.

I just wish rather than crashing some really mean things were written to a log 
or something instead. I give full permission to use profanity in my logs if 
necessary. I just wish using Kmail didn't feel like using beta software, it's 
probably my 2nd most important application of all time :(


On Sunday, June 10, 2012 11:25:34 AM Rex Dieter wrote:
>  On 06/10/2012 11:20 AM, Eli Wapniarski wrote:
>  > Nope... Configured khtml and I have the latest greatest installed from
>  > adobe's repo.
>  
>  OK, strange then.  that's when my crashes stop happening.
>  
>  -- rex
>  
>  > On Sunday 10 June 2012 09:08:13 Rex Dieter wrote:
>  >> On 06/10/2012 03:19 AM, Victor B. Gonzalez wrote:
>  >>> It looks like you might be on to something. I don't load the external
>  >>> references automatically so I decided to go click crazy in the pattern I
>  >>> usually find myself crashing Kmail and it didn't crash.
>  >>> 
>  >>> I am guessing this is a known bug, any workarounds or is it being
>  >>> addressed
>  >>> and possibly fixed? I've got new ammo to google, thanks!
>  >> 
>  >> In my experience, this is related to having and old (< 11.2 version)
>  >> flash-plugin installed *and* defaulting konq to using webkit over khtml.
>  >> 
>  >> Does this match your setup?
>  >> 
>  >> (though having a backtrace could help confirm that or not)
>  >> 
>  >> -- rex
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[Eli Wapniarski]

On Sunday 10 June 2012 20:05:59 Victor B. Gonzalez wrote:
>  I have flash-plugin version 11.2.202.236, on Fedora 17 64, using KDE
> 4.8.3.
>  I was really happy that disabling cache and probably switching webkit to
>  KHTML helped *but* this morning, after resuming from a suspend, I switched
>  from a sub-folder that contains this mailing list to my inbox and Kmail
>  crashed with a segfault 11.
>  
>  I just wish rather than crashing some really mean things were written to a
>  log or something instead. I give full permission to use profanity in my
>  logs if necessary. I just wish using Kmail didn't feel like using beta
>  software, it's probably my 2nd most important application of all time :(
>   
I completely concur with this.

Eli

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[Eli Wapniarski]

On Sunday 10 June 2012 09:08:13 Rex Dieter wrote:
>  On 06/10/2012 03:19 AM, Victor B. Gonzalez wrote:
>  > It looks like you might be on to something. I don't load the external
>  > references automatically so I decided to go click crazy in the pattern I
>  > usually find myself crashing Kmail and it didn't crash.
>  > 
>  > I am guessing this is a known bug, any workarounds or is it being
>  > addressed
>  > and possibly fixed? I've got new ammo to google, thanks!
>  
>  In my experience, this is related to having and old (< 11.2 version)
>  flash-plugin installed *and* defaulting konq to using webkit over khtml.
>  
>  Does this match your setup?
>  
>  (though having a backtrace could help confirm that or not)
>   
However... Your first suggestion regarding a relationship between nepomuk and 
kmail seems to still hold. After switching of the cache and then configuring 
the ability to load external sources, kmail started to crash when I tried to 
reply.

After disabling and rebooting then enabling and rebooting kmail continued to 
crash when I replied.

I disabled nepomuk and rebooted, started kontact, hit reply and I was able to. 
But I got warning messages about features being disabled. I re-enabled nepomuk 
by clicking on the configure button on the warning message and I have had no 
problems since.

I am fully expecting kmail to begin crashing again at some point.

Eli

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