NetworkManager under KDE

[Timothy Murphy]

I am running Fedora-12 with KDE.
Is it possible to configure NM (NetworkManager)
so that it starts before I login,
and does not require me to enter a password?

The instructions I have seen for this all seem to assume
that one is using Gnome rather than KDE.

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 13:50 +0000, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> I am running Fedora-12 with KDE.
> Is it possible to configure NM (NetworkManager)
> so that it starts before I login,
> and does not require me to enter a password?
>
> The instructions I have seen for this all seem to assume
> that one is using Gnome rather than KDE.

system-config-network.

poc

[Timothy Murphy]

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > I am running Fedora-12 with KDE.
> > Is it possible to configure NM (NetworkManager)
> > so that it starts before I login,
> > and does not require me to enter a password?
> >
> > The instructions I have seen for this all seem to assume
> > that one is using Gnome rather than KDE.
>
> system-config-network.

What about it?
I have the checkbox "Activate device when computer starts" ticked,
but this appears to have no effect.

[Patrick Boutilier]

On 12/13/2009 11:18 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > I am running Fedora-12 with KDE.
> > > Is it possible to configure NM (NetworkManager)
> > > so that it starts before I login,
> > > and does not require me to enter a password?
> > >
> > > The instructions I have seen for this all seem to assume
> > > that one is using Gnome rather than KDE.
> >
> > system-config-network.
>
> What about it?
> I have the checkbox "Activate device when computer starts" ticked,
> but this appears to have no effect.

Works here. Wireless or ethernet card?

[Timothy Murphy]

Patrick Boutilier wrote:
> > > > I am running Fedora-12 with KDE.
> > > > Is it possible to configure NM (NetworkManager)
> > > > so that it starts before I login,
> > > > and does not require me to enter a password?
> > > >
> > > > The instructions I have seen for this all seem to assume
> > > > that one is using Gnome rather than KDE.
> > >
> > > system-config-network.
> >
> > What about it?
> > I have the checkbox "Activate device when computer starts" ticked,
> > but this appears to have no effect.
> Works here. Wireless or ethernet card?

WiFi (Thinkpad T43 with Intel PRO/Wireless 2915ABG).

[Patrick Boutilier]

On 12/13/2009 09:28 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> Patrick Boutilier wrote:
> > > > > I am running Fedora-12 with KDE.
> > > > > Is it possible to configure NM (NetworkManager)
> > > > > so that it starts before I login,
> > > > > and does not require me to enter a password?
> > > > >
> > > > > The instructions I have seen for this all seem to assume
> > > > > that one is using Gnome rather than KDE.
> > > >
> > > > system-config-network.
> > >
> > > What about it?
> > > I have the checkbox "Activate device when computer starts" ticked,
> > > but this appears to have no effect.
> > Works here. Wireless or ethernet card?
>
> WiFi (Thinkpad T43 with Intel PRO/Wireless 2915ABG).

Couple of things to check. Is wireless key defined in under "Wireless 
Settings"?

Under the "Hardware Device" tab I had to pick my wlan0 instead of using 
the default choice (forget what it was).

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 15:18 +0000, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > I am running Fedora-12 with KDE.
> > > Is it possible to configure NM (NetworkManager)
> > > so that it starts before I login,
> > > and does not require me to enter a password?
> > >
> > > The instructions I have seen for this all seem to assume
> > > that one is using Gnome rather than KDE.
> >
> > system-config-network.
>
> What about it?
> I have the checkbox "Activate device when computer starts" ticked,
> but this appears to have no effect.

Do you also have "controlled by NetworkManager" ticked? Try "allow all
users to activate/deactivate". I have all three of these and it works
fine.

And make sure of course that you're setting this stuff for the correct
device, just in case.

poc

[Timothy Murphy]

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > > I am running Fedora-12 with KDE.
> > > > Is it possible to configure NM (NetworkManager)
> > > > so that it starts before I login,
> > > > and does not require me to enter a password?
> > > >
> > > > The instructions I have seen for this all seem to assume
> > > > that one is using Gnome rather than KDE.
> > >
> > > system-config-network.
> >
> > What about it?
> > I have the checkbox "Activate device when computer starts" ticked,
> > but this appears to have no effect.
>
> Do you also have "controlled by NetworkManager" ticked? Try "allow all
> users to activate/deactivate". I have all three of these and it works
> fine.
>
> And make sure of course that you're setting this stuff for the correct
> device, just in case.

Thanks very much for the response.
I did in fact have the correct entries under system-config-network .

I found in the end (by studying /var/log/messages)
that the problem was an error in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1 ,
where Fedora had at some point written "MODE=Master",
which according to the log-file is invalid
["ifcfg-rh: error: Invalid mode 'master' (not 'Ad-Hoc' or 'Managed')"].
After changing this to "MODE=Managed", all is well;
WiFi now starts before login.

I find it slightly odd that the effect of this error
is that one has to enter a password;
I would have thought it would be an error 
whether a password was given or not.

I also find the NetworkManager entries in /var/log/messages
excessively verbose; they seem to take up about half of this file,
which suggests to me that NM is excessively complicated.

[Ian Pilcher]

On 12/13/2009 07:50 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> I am running Fedora-12 with KDE.
> Is it possible to configure NM (NetworkManager)
> so that it starts before I login,
> and does not require me to enter a password?
>
> The instructions I have seen for this all seem to assume
> that one is using Gnome rather than KDE.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=453880

[Timothy Murphy]

Ian Pilcher wrote:
> On 12/13/2009 07:50 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> > I am running Fedora-12 with KDE.
> > Is it possible to configure NM (NetworkManager)
> > so that it starts before I login,
> > and does not require me to enter a password?
> >
> > The instructions I have seen for this all seem to assume
> > that one is using Gnome rather than KDE.
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=453880

I should confess that the problem in my case
turned out to be an error in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1
where NM (I assume) had written MODE=master
leading to an error reported in /var/log/messages .
Having replaced this entry with MODE=managed ,
NM now starts before login, as desired.

[Patrick Boutilier]

On 12/20/2009 05:38 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> Ian Pilcher wrote:
> > On 12/13/2009 07:50 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> > > I am running Fedora-12 with KDE.
> > > Is it possible to configure NM (NetworkManager)
> > > so that it starts before I login,
> > > and does not require me to enter a password?
> > >
> > > The instructions I have seen for this all seem to assume
> > > that one is using Gnome rather than KDE.
> >
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=453880
>
> I should confess that the problem in my case
> turned out to be an error in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1
> where NM (I assume) had written MODE=master
> leading to an error reported in /var/log/messages .
> Having replaced this entry with MODE=managed ,
> NM now starts before login, as desired.

Master seems to be the default mode when configuring a wireless card in 
system-config-network. I almost missed changing it to managed myself.
>