kded4 crashes randomly

[Gene Smith]

I see occasional crash reports for kded4 (seg fault). This is a recent 
fresh install of F12 on new system. Seems to run OK otherwise and passes 
memtest86.

Here is what I am running right now:

$ rpm -q qt kdelibs
qt-4.5.3-9.fc12.x86_64
kdelibs-4.3.4-3.fc12.x86_64

After pressing "restart app" on crash dialog:

ps ax | grep kded
  2800 ?        S      0:00 kded4 --nocrashhandler

I am also using "Fedora 12 Updates/Test Updates" and "kde-testing"
repos 
right now. Does this sound OK?

Thanks,
-gene

[Rex Dieter]

Gene Smith wrote:

>  I see occasional crash reports for kded4 (seg fault). This is a
> recent
>  fresh install of F12 on new system.  
A recent PackageKit-0.5.5 update is inducing kpackagekit's kded4 module to 
die (and crash kded4).

-- Rex

[Gene Smith]

Rex Dieter wrote, On 12/30/2009 04:41 PM:
>  Gene Smith wrote:
>
> > I see occasional crash reports for kded4 (seg fault). This is a recent
> > fresh install of F12 on new system.
>
>  A recent PackageKit-0.5.5 update is inducing kpackagekit's kded4 module to
>  die (and crash kded4).
>
>  -- Rex
>  
I seem to have 0.5.2:

$ rpm -qa | grep packagekit
gnome-packagekit-2.28.3-0.1.20091211git.fc12.x86_64
kpackagekit-0.5.2-1.fc12.x86_64

But I was using kpackagekit last time it crashed (a few minutes ago).

-gene

[Rex Dieter]

On 12/30/2009 04:08 PM, Gene Smith wrote:
>  Rex Dieter wrote, On 12/30/2009 04:41 PM:
> > Gene Smith wrote:
> >
> >> I see occasional crash reports for kded4 (seg fault). This is a recent
> >> fresh install of F12 on new system.
> >
> > A recent PackageKit-0.5.5 update is inducing kpackagekit's kded4 module to
> > die (and crash kded4). 
>  I seem to have 0.5.2:
>
>  $ rpm -qa | grep packagekit
>  gnome-packagekit-2.28.3-0.1.20091211git.fc12.x86_64
>  kpackagekit-0.5.2-1.fc12.x86_64
>
>  But I was using kpackagekit last time it crashed (a few minutes ago). 
rpm -q PackageKit ?

-- Rex

[Gene Smith]

Rex Dieter wrote, On 12/30/2009 05:19 PM:
>  On 12/30/2009 04:08 PM, Gene Smith wrote:
> > Rex Dieter wrote, On 12/30/2009 04:41 PM:
> >> Gene Smith wrote:
> >>
> >>> I see occasional crash reports for kded4 (seg fault). This is a recent
> >>> fresh install of F12 on new system.
> >>
> >> A recent PackageKit-0.5.5 update is inducing kpackagekit's kded4 module to
> >> die (and crash kded4).
>
> > I seem to have 0.5.2:
> >
> > $ rpm -qa | grep packagekit
> > gnome-packagekit-2.28.3-0.1.20091211git.fc12.x86_64
> > kpackagekit-0.5.2-1.fc12.x86_64
> >
> > But I was using kpackagekit last time it crashed (a few minutes ago).
>
>  rpm -q PackageKit ?
>
>  -- Rex 
you right,
PackageKit-0.5.5-1.fc12.x86_64

[Martin Kho]

On Wednesday 30 December 2009 23:08:04 Gene Smith wrote:
>  Rex Dieter wrote, On 12/30/2009 04:41 PM:
>  > Gene Smith wrote:
>  >> I see occasional crash reports for kded4 (seg fault). This is a recent
>  >> fresh install of F12 on new system.
>  >
>  > A recent PackageKit-0.5.5 update is inducing kpackagekit's kded4 module
>  > to die (and crash kded4).
>  >
>  > -- Rex
>  
>  I seem to have 0.5.2:
>  
>  $ rpm -qa | grep packagekit
>  gnome-packagekit-2.28.3-0.1.20091211git.fc12.x86_64
>  kpackagekit-0.5.2-1.fc12.x86_64 
Hi

Do you see what is described in bug [1]?

Martin Kho

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=550552

>  
>  But I was using kpackagekit last time it crashed (a few minutes ago).
>  
>  -gene
>  
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[Martin Kho]

On Wednesday 30 December 2009 23:27:22 Martin Kho wrote:
>  On Wednesday 30 December 2009 23:08:04 Gene Smith wrote:
>  > Rex Dieter wrote, On 12/30/2009 04:41 PM:
>  > > Gene Smith wrote:
>  > >> I see occasional crash reports for kded4 (seg fault). This is a recent
>  > >> fresh install of F12 on new system.
>  > >
>  > > A recent PackageKit-0.5.5 update is inducing kpackagekit's kded4 module
>  > > to die (and crash kded4).
>  > >
>  > > -- Rex
>  >
>  > I seem to have 0.5.2:
>  >
>  > $ rpm -qa | grep packagekit
>  > gnome-packagekit-2.28.3-0.1.20091211git.fc12.x86_64
>  > kpackagekit-0.5.2-1.fc12.x86_64
>  
>  Hi
>  
>  Do you see what is described in bug [1]?
>  
>  Martin Kho
>  
>  [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=550552
>   
Sorry, partly wrong report ;-) See comment #5 in report [2]

[2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=546205

In F12 I still haven't found any clues why it isn't working.  

Martin Kho


>  > But I was using kpackagekit last time it crashed (a few minutes
> ago).
>  >
>  > -gene
>  >
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[Gene Smith]

Martin Kho wrote, On 12/30/2009 05:40 PM:
>  On Wednesday 30 December 2009 23:27:22 Martin Kho wrote:
> > On Wednesday 30 December 2009 23:08:04 Gene Smith wrote:
> >> Rex Dieter wrote, On 12/30/2009 04:41 PM:
> >>> Gene Smith wrote:
> >>>> I see occasional crash reports for kded4 (seg fault). This is a recent
> >>>> fresh install of F12 on new system.
> >>>
> >>> A recent PackageKit-0.5.5 update is inducing kpackagekit's kded4 module
> >>> to die (and crash kded4).
> >>>
> >>> -- Rex
> >>
> >> I seem to have 0.5.2:
> >>
> >> $ rpm -qa | grep packagekit
> >> gnome-packagekit-2.28.3-0.1.20091211git.fc12.x86_64
> >> kpackagekit-0.5.2-1.fc12.x86_64
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > Do you see what is described in bug [1]?
> >
> > Martin Kho
> >
> > [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=550552
> >
>
>  Sorry, partly wrong report ;-) See comment #5 in report [2]
>
>  [2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=546205
>
>  In F12 I still haven't found any clues why it isn't working.
>
>  Martin Kho 
I see the same thing. I enabled Fedora rawhide and kde-unstable in 
kpkgkit gui and went through all the steps and *nothing* shows up in 
kpkgkit. But they do in yum check-update. But didn't see any crashes of 
anything this time.

-gene

[Gene Smith]

Martin Kho wrote, On 12/30/2009 05:27 PM:
>  On Wednesday 30 December 2009 23:08:04 Gene Smith wrote:
> > Rex Dieter wrote, On 12/30/2009 04:41 PM:
> >> Gene Smith wrote:
> >>> I see occasional crash reports for kded4 (seg fault). This is a recent
> >>> fresh install of F12 on new system.
> >>
> >> A recent PackageKit-0.5.5 update is inducing kpackagekit's kded4 module
> >> to die (and crash kded4).
> >>
> >> -- Rex
> >
> > I seem to have 0.5.2:
> >
> > $ rpm -qa | grep packagekit
> > gnome-packagekit-2.28.3-0.1.20091211git.fc12.x86_64
> > kpackagekit-0.5.2-1.fc12.x86_64
>
>  Hi
>
>  Do you see what is described in bug [1]? 
Not exactly. I just did a "refresh" and it didn't crash and is still 
running:
ps ax | grep kded
  3424 ?        S      0:00 kded4 --nocrashhandler

Also, when this happens the package kit program doesn't crash, just the 
kde daemon. Also, just saw the crash when I was not running the pkg kit. 
Maybe it runs in background to check for updates?

And (this might not be related) I also see "kernel" crashes occasionally 
and a red icon thing in the tray after that. But everything keeps running.

-gene


>  Martin Kho
>
>  [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=550552
>
> >
> > But I was using kpackagekit last time it crashed (a few minutes ago).
> >
> > -gene
> >

[Jan Simonson]

onsdag 30 december 2009 skrev Martin Kho:
>  > > A recent PackageKit-0.5.5 update is inducing
> kpackagekit's kded4 module
>  > > to die (and crash kded4).
>  > >
>  > > -- Rex
>  >
>  > I seem to have 0.5.2:
>  >
>  > $ rpm -qa | grep packagekit
>  > gnome-packagekit-2.28.3-0.1.20091211git.fc12.x86_64
>  > kpackagekit-0.5.2-1.fc12.x86_64
>  
>  Hi
>  
>  Do you see what is described in bug [1]?
>  
>  Martin Kho
>  
>  [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=550552
>   
Not exactly, but close enough ;-)

On my fresh F12 system installed over F10 only keeping /home from the previous 
install, and after upgrading kpackagekit the other day I now have:
[jan@oden ~]$ rpm -qa|grep kpackagekit
kpackagekit-0.5.2-1.fc12.x86_64
[jan@oden ~]$
Today I brought the system fully up to date and thus upgraded from Kde 4.3.3 to 
4.3.4. I had to do it It from the command line as kpackagekit didn't show any 
updates available even after a refresh. Furthermore pressing "refresh" in 
kpackagekit now results in a crash and also brings down kded4. Kded4 has to be 
manually restarted to bring back the functionality on the desktop.

This is with only "stable" updates and NO "testing" installed.

Jan Simonson

[Martin Kho]

>  onsdag 30 december 2009 skrev Martin Kho:
>  > > > A recent PackageKit-0.5.5 update is inducing kpackagekit's kded4
>  > > > module to die (and crash kded4).
>  > > >
>  > > > -- Rex
>  > >
>  > > I seem to have 0.5.2:
>  > >
>  > > $ rpm -qa | grep packagekit
>  > > gnome-packagekit-2.28.3-0.1.20091211git.fc12.x86_64
>  > > kpackagekit-0.5.2-1.fc12.x86_64
>  >
>  > Hi
>  >
>  > Do you see what is described in bug [1]?
>  >
>  > Martin Kho
>  >
>  > [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=550552
>  
>  Not exactly, but close enough ;-)
>  
>  On my fresh F12 system installed over F10 only keeping /home from the
>   previous install, and after upgrading kpackagekit the other day I now
>   have: [jan@oden ~]$ rpm -qa|grep kpackagekit
>  kpackagekit-0.5.2-1.fc12.x86_64
>  [jan@oden ~]$
>  Today I brought the system fully up to date and thus upgraded from Kde
>   4.3.3 to 4.3.4. I had to do it It from the command line as kpackagekit
>   didn't show any updates available even after a refresh. Furthermore
>   pressing "refresh" in kpackagekit now results in a crash and also brings
>   down kded4. Kded4 has to be manually restarted to bring back the
>   functionality on the desktop.
>  
>  This is with only "stable" updates and NO "testing" installed.
Today I got it crashing too. Filed bug [3]

Martin Kho

[3] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=551500

>  
>  Jan Simonson
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[Jan Simonson]

torsdag 31 december 2009 skrev Jan Simonson:
>  On my fresh F12 system installed over F10 only keeping /home from
> the
>   previous  install, and after upgrading kpackagekit the other day I now
>   have: [jan@oden ~]$ rpm -qa|grep kpackagekit
>  kpackagekit-0.5.2-1.fc12.x86_64
>  [jan@oden ~]$
>  Today I brought the system fully up to date and thus upgraded from Kde
>   4.3.3 to  4.3.4. I had to do it It from the command line as kpackagekit
>   didn't show any updates available even after a refresh. Furthermore
>   pressing "refresh" in kpackagekit now results in a crash and also brings
>   down kded4. Kded4 has to be manually restarted to bring back the
>   functionality on the desktop.
>  
>  This is with only "stable" updates and NO "testing" installed.
Today after updating  PackageKit to 0.5.6-1.fc12 kpackagekit started to function 
again with relevant updates displayed and no chrashes when pressing "refresh".

Seems that the problem was not in kpackagekit but rather in PackageKit.

Jan
-- 
Jan Simonson

[Rex Dieter]

Jan Simonson wrote:
>  torsdag 31 december 2009 skrev Jan Simonson:
> > On my fresh F12 system installed over F10 only keeping /home from the
> >  previous  install, and after upgrading kpackagekit the other day I now
> >  have: [jan@oden ~]$ rpm -qa|grep kpackagekit
> > kpackagekit-0.5.2-1.fc12.x86_64
> > [jan@oden ~]$
> > Today I brought the system fully up to date and thus upgraded from Kde
> >  4.3.3 to  4.3.4. I had to do it It from the command line as kpackagekit
> >  didn't show any updates available even after a refresh. Furthermore
> >  pressing "refresh" in kpackagekit now results in a crash and also brings
> >  down kded4. Kded4 has to be manually restarted to bring back the
> >  functionality on the desktop.
> >
> > This is with only "stable" updates and NO "testing" installed.
>  
>  Today after updating  PackageKit to 0.5.6-1.fc12 kpackagekit started to function 
>  again with relevant updates displayed and no chrashes when pressing "refresh".
>  
>  Seems that the problem was not in kpackagekit but rather in PackageKit. 
Right, it was PackageKit-qt bindings in particular.

Though I'm glad it's working for you, I continue to experience crashes.

-- Rex

[Martin Kho]

>  Jan Simonson wrote:
>  > torsdag 31 december 2009 skrev Jan Simonson:
>  >> On my fresh F12 system installed over F10 only keeping /home from the
>  >>  previous  install, and after upgrading kpackagekit the other day I now
>  >>  have: [jan@oden ~]$ rpm -qa|grep kpackagekit
>  >> kpackagekit-0.5.2-1.fc12.x86_64
>  >> [jan@oden ~]$
>  >> Today I brought the system fully up to date and thus upgraded from Kde
>  >>  4.3.3 to  4.3.4. I had to do it It from the command line as kpackagekit
>  >>  didn't show any updates available even after a refresh. Furthermore
>  >>  pressing "refresh" in kpackagekit now results in a crash and also
>  >> brings down kded4. Kded4 has to be manually restarted to bring back the
>  >> functionality on the desktop.
>  >>
>  >> This is with only "stable" updates and NO "testing"
> installed.
>  >
>  > Today after updating  PackageKit to 0.5.6-1.fc12 kpackagekit started to
>  > function again with relevant updates displayed and no chrashes when
>  > pressing "refresh".
>  >
>  > Seems that the problem was not in kpackagekit but rather in PackageKit. 
Hi Jan,

I'm too glad to hear that the latest update solved all (?) your problems with 
kpackagekit. With the same versions installed I still experience, like Rex, 
crashes. Could you please give some more information about your specific 
installation? For instants, what yum packages do you have installed  (rpm -qa 
*yum*) Do you have some gnome related packages installed? Or ...? What do you 
have in the config file KPackageKit in ~/.kde/share/config or maybe in other 
relevant config files? Can you add your successful experiences to bug #551500, 
see [1]?

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=551500

Thanks,

Martin Kho


>  
>  Right, it was PackageKit-qt bindings in particular.
>  
>  Though I'm glad it's working for you, I continue to experience crashes.
>  
>  -- Rex 
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[Jan Simonson]

Hello Martin,

>  I'm too glad to hear that the latest update solved all (?) your
> problems
>   with  kpackagekit. With the same versions installed I still experience,
>   like Rex, crashes. Could you please give some more information about your
>   specific installation? 
This is an old F10 system which I tried to upgrade to F12
before Christmas. 
However, when using preupgrade I ran into problems as my raid 1 disks were not 
recognized properly. So I wiped all but home and made a fresh install of F12. 
Thus I have a new install but with the config-files from F10 in my home 
directory.

>   For instants, what yum packages do you have installed  (rpm -qa
> *yum*) 
[jan@oden ~]$ rpm -qa|grep yum
yum-metadata-parser-1.1.2-14.fc12.x86_64
PackageKit-yum-0.5.6-1.fc12.x86_64
yum-updatesd-0.9-3.fc12.noarch
yum-3.2.25-1.fc12.noarch
anaconda-yum-plugins-1.0-5.fc12.noarch
PackageKit-yum-plugin-0.5.6-1.fc12.x86_64
yum-utils-1.1.24-2.fc12.noarch
[jan@oden ~]$

>   Do you have some gnome related packages installed? Or ...?  
I
do not use Gnome but I have some libraries (required by PageStream which I use 
a lot) and also some programs as installed even when I tried to deselect as much 
as possible during package selection.
[jan@oden ~]$ rpm -qa|grep gnome
libgnomecanvas-2.26.0-2.fc12.x86_64
gnome-keyring-sharp-1.0.1-0.5.133722svn.fc12.x86_64
gnome-sharp-2.24.0-7.fc12.x86_64                   
gnome-python2-2.28.0-1.fc12.x86_64
libgnomeui-2.24.1-3.fc12.x86_64
gnome-vfs2-2.24.2-2.fc12.x86_64
gnome-media-libs-2.28.1-3.fc12.x86_64
gnome-keyring-2.28.2-2.fc12.i686
libgnomeui-2.24.1-3.fc12.i686
gnome-python2-gnomevfs-2.28.0-1.fc12.x86_64
gnome-themes-2.28.1-2.fc12.noarch
gnome-vfs2-2.24.2-2.fc12.i686
gnome-python2-gtkhtml2-2.25.3-14.fc12.x86_64
gnome-python2-gconf-2.28.0-1.fc12.x86_64
libgnome-2.28.0-1.fc12.x86_64
gnome-python2-bonobo-2.28.0-1.fc12.x86_64
gnome-python2-canvas-2.28.0-1.fc12.x86_64
gnome-python2-gnome-2.28.0-1.fc12.x86_64
gnome-python2-desktop-2.28.0-2.fc12.x86_64
gnome-menus-2.28.0-3.fc12.x86_64
polkit-gnome-0.95-0.git20090913.6.fc12.x86_64
gnome-media-2.28.1-3.fc12.x86_64
gnome-icon-theme-2.28.0-1.fc12.noarch
libgnome-2.28.0-1.fc12.i686
gnome-python2-gnomekeyring-2.28.0-2.fc12.x86_64
libgnomecanvas-2.26.0-2.fc12.i686
gnome-python2-extras-2.25.3-14.fc12.x86_64
fedora-gnome-theme-12.3-2.fc12.noarch
gnome-doc-utils-stylesheets-0.18.0-1.fc12.noarch
gnome-keyring-2.28.2-2.fc12.x86_64
[jan@oden ~]$

>   What do you have in the config file KPackageKit in
>   ~/.kde/share/config or maybe in other relevant config files? 
When the problems
with kpackagekit started I erased my 
/home/jan/.kde/share/config/KPackageKit file and a new was created next time I 
started kpackagekit. It's very minimalistic:

[CheckUpdate]
interval=86400

[FilterMenu]
FilterNewest=0
ViewInGroups=false

[KpkMainUi]
Height 1200=1171
Width 1920=837

[Notify]
notifyUpdates=2

[ReviewChangesDialog]
Height 1200=280
Width 1920=320

[Transaction]
ShowDetails=true

[requirementsDialog]
Height 1200=304
Width 1920=551


>   Can you add your successful experiences to bug #551500, see [1]?
Done.

Good luck!
Jan
-- 
Jan Simonson

[Jan Simonson]

Hello,

Further to the kpackagekit story...

A couple of days ago i upgraded kpackagekit to testing with 
"yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update kpackagekit". That resulted in 
kpackagekit-0.5.3-1.fc12.x86_64 installed on my system.

Since then there has been no upgrades available, at least not in kpackagekit, 
but today i checked with "yum upgrade" in a shell and sure enough there were 22

upgrades available! After checking once more with kpackagekit (still nothing) I 
downgraded to kpackagekit-0.5.2-1.fc12.x86_64 and all the upgrades were 
available there as well. So I upgraded kpackagekit one more time to check (all 
updates gone) and down again (all updates available).

As I see  it there must be a regression in kpackagekit-0.5.3-1.fc12.x86_64!

BTW1, I still have NO chrashes with either version of kpackagekit.

BTW2, there is a dependency problem with mesa-libGL
Fel: Saknat beroende: libdrm >= 2.4.17-1 behövs av paketet mesa-
libGL-7.7-2.fc12.x86_64 (updates)

Regards
Jan
-- 
Jan Simonson

[Martin Kho]

>  Hello,
>  
>  Further to the kpackagekit story...
>  
>  A couple of days ago i upgraded kpackagekit to testing with
>  "yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update kpackagekit". That resulted in
>  kpackagekit-0.5.3-1.fc12.x86_64 installed on my system.
>  
>  Since then there has been no upgrades available, at least not in
>   kpackagekit, but today i checked with "yum upgrade" in a shell and sure
>   enough there were 22 upgrades available! After checking once more with
>   kpackagekit (still nothing) I downgraded to
>   kpackagekit-0.5.2-1.fc12.x86_64 and all the upgrades were available there
>   as well. So I upgraded kpackagekit one more time to check (all updates
>   gone) and down again (all updates available).
>  
>  As I see  it there must be a regression in kpackagekit-0.5.3-1.fc12.x86_64! 
Hi Jan,
It looks like we are at the same level now. I too downgraded kpackagekit to 
version 0.5.2-1 and ... the KDE Daemon didn't crash. Available updates are 
visible. The crashes didn't happen anymore, after I got the following updates:

Jan 16 11:26:49 Updated: libxcb-1.5-1.fc12.x86_64
Jan 16 11:26:51 Updated: system-config-printer-libs-1.1.16-8.fc12.x86_64
Jan 16 11:26:53 Updated: libxfcegui4-4.6.2-1.fc12.x86_64
Jan 16 11:26:54 Updated: system-config-printer-udev-1.1.16-8.fc12.x86_64
Jan 16 11:26:56 Updated: gdb-7.0.1-26.fc12.x86_64
Jan 16 11:26:57 Updated: 1:xorg-x11-drv-
nouveau-0.0.15-19.20091105gite1c2efd.fc12.x86_64
Jan 16 11:26:58 Updated: libxcb-devel-1.5-1.fc12.x86_64
Jan 16 11:27:00 Updated: system-config-printer-1.1.16-8.fc12.x86_64

Which one is relevant if one? I don't know. May be there is still somewhere a 
'red herring'? :-)

Martin Kho

BTW: I'll update bug report [1] with this information.

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=551500
>  
>  BTW1, I still have NO chrashes with either version of kpackagekit.
>  
>  BTW2, there is a dependency problem with mesa-libGL
>  Fel: Saknat beroende: libdrm >= 2.4.17-1 behövs av paketet mesa-
>  libGL-7.7-2.fc12.x86_64 (updates)
>  
>  Regards
>  Jan
>

[Jan Simonson]

Hello Martin,

Ten days ago you wrote:

>  It looks like we are at the same level now. I too downgraded
> kpackagekit
>   to  version 0.5.2-1 and ... the KDE Daemon didn't crash. Available updates
>   are visible. The crashes didn't happen anymore, after I got the following
>   updates:
>  
>  Jan 16 11:26:49 Updated: libxcb-1.5-1.fc12.x86_64
>  Jan 16 11:26:51 Updated: system-config-printer-libs-1.1.16-8.fc12.x86_64
>  Jan 16 11:26:53 Updated: libxfcegui4-4.6.2-1.fc12.x86_64
>  Jan 16 11:26:54 Updated: system-config-printer-udev-1.1.16-8.fc12.x86_64
>  Jan 16 11:26:56 Updated: gdb-7.0.1-26.fc12.x86_64
>  Jan 16 11:26:57 Updated: 1:xorg-x11-drv-
>  nouveau-0.0.15-19.20091105gite1c2efd.fc12.x86_64
>  Jan 16 11:26:58 Updated: libxcb-devel-1.5-1.fc12.x86_64
>  Jan 16 11:27:00 Updated: system-config-printer-1.1.16-8.fc12.x86_64
>  
>  Which one is relevant if one? I don't know. May be there is still somewhere
>   a  'red herring'? :-) 
It might very well be one still left ;-)

A couple of days ago I suddenly started getting kded4 crashes after I checked 
for upgrades with kpackagekit and found at least one upgrade. As this was new, 
and I had been able to use kpackagekit without any problems since the last 
packagekit upgrade, I started downgrading what I had recently upgraded in other 
packages. However this didn't solve the crash-problem so I re-upgraded again. 
All the time I checked frequently if the kded4 crash still was there and it was!

After much thought I remembered that I had adjusted the KDE system-settings at 
about the time the crashes started. Some experimentation later I found that if 
the "Kpackagekit-tjänst" (-service in english) is started in system-settings
> 
Advanced > Services kded4 crashes some ten minutes after kpackagekit is closed 
whether I actually upgraded something or not as long as there are upgrades 
available.

This is fully reproducible. I also have a backtrace but I doubt if it's of any 
use. It's included below anyhow. I use kpackagekit-0.5.2-1.fc12.x86_64.

Regards
Jan
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Jan Simonson

[Martin Kho]

On Friday 29 January 2010 19:22:55 Jan Simonson wrote:
>  Hello Martin,
>  
>  Ten days ago you wrote:
>  > It looks like we are at the same level now. I too downgraded kpackagekit
>  > 
>  >  to  version 0.5.2-1 and ... the KDE Daemon didn't crash. Available
>  >  updates are visible. The crashes didn't happen anymore, after I got the
>  >  following
>  > 
>  >  updates:
>  > Jan 16 11:26:49 Updated: libxcb-1.5-1.fc12.x86_64
>  > Jan 16 11:26:51 Updated: system-config-printer-libs-1.1.16-8.fc12.x86_64
>  > Jan 16 11:26:53 Updated: libxfcegui4-4.6.2-1.fc12.x86_64
>  > Jan 16 11:26:54 Updated: system-config-printer-udev-1.1.16-8.fc12.x86_64
>  > Jan 16 11:26:56 Updated: gdb-7.0.1-26.fc12.x86_64
>  > Jan 16 11:26:57 Updated: 1:xorg-x11-drv-
>  > nouveau-0.0.15-19.20091105gite1c2efd.fc12.x86_64
>  > Jan 16 11:26:58 Updated: libxcb-devel-1.5-1.fc12.x86_64
>  > Jan 16 11:27:00 Updated: system-config-printer-1.1.16-8.fc12.x86_64
>  > 
>  > Which one is relevant if one? I don't know. May be there is still
>  > somewhere
>  > 
>  >  a  'red herring'? :-)
>  
>  It might very well be one still left ;-)
>  
>  A couple of days ago I suddenly started getting kded4 crashes after I
>  checked for upgrades with kpackagekit and found at least one upgrade. As
>  this was new, and I had been able to use kpackagekit without any problems
>  since the last packagekit upgrade, I started downgrading what I had
>  recently upgraded in other packages. However this didn't solve the
>  crash-problem so I re-upgraded again. All the time I checked frequently if
>  the kded4 crash still was there and it was!
>  
>  After much thought I remembered that I had adjusted the KDE system-settings
>  at about the time the crashes started. Some experimentation later I found
>  that if the "Kpackagekit-tjänst" (-service in english) is started in
>  system-settings > Advanced > Services kded4 crashes some ten minutes after
>  kpackagekit is closed whether I actually upgraded something or not as long
>  as there are upgrades available.
>  
>  This is fully reproducible. I also have a backtrace but I doubt if it's of
>  any use. It's included below anyhow. I use
>  kpackagekit-0.5.2-1.fc12.x86_64. 
Hi Jan,

In Koji you can find kpackagekit-0.5.2-2.fc12.x86_64. To me, this version 
doesn't crash and has automatic update notification fixed.

Hopes this helps,

Martin Kho

>  
>  Regards
>  Jan

[Patrick Boutilier]

On 01/29/2010 02:38 PM, Martin Kho wrote:
<snip>
>  Hi Jan,
>
>  In Koji you can find kpackagekit-0.5.2-2.fc12.x86_64. To me, this
>  version doesn't crash and has automatic update notification fixed. 
Hmmm... kpackagekit-0.5.4-2.fc12.x86_64 is in updates testing . I have 
been running 0.5.4-1.fc12 and although it doesn't cause crashes it also 
didn't tell me of any updates available.

121 updates including kpackagekit available via yum.


>  Hopes this helps,
>
>  Martin Kho
>
>   >
>
>   > Regards
>
>   > Jan
>
>
>
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[Steven M. Parrish]

On Friday 29 January 2010 13:46:25 Patrick Boutilier wrote:
>  On 01/29/2010 02:38 PM, Martin Kho wrote:
>  <snip>
>  
>  > Hi Jan,
>  >
>  > In Koji you can find kpackagekit-0.5.2-2.fc12.x86_64. To me, this
>  > version doesn't crash and has automatic update notification fixed.
>  
>  Hmmm... kpackagekit-0.5.4-2.fc12.x86_64 is in updates testing . I have
>  been running 0.5.4-1.fc12 and although it doesn't cause crashes it also
>  didn't tell me of any updates available.
>  
>  121 updates including kpackagekit available via yum.
>  
>  > Hopes this helps,
>  >
>  > Martin Kho
>  >
>  >  > Regards
>  >  >
>  >  > Jan
>  >
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>   
Yes version 0.5.4-2 should both the KDED4 crashes and not being notified of 
new updates.  Please file a bugreport for any new issues you may have.

Steven

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