After the Fedora 34 update on tuesday kded5 has been nagging me to unlock my KDE wallet which is strange considering it should be unlocked by SDDM usind the pam module.
After asking around on irc and finding this [1] Ask Fedora post this seems to be more than a one time occurance but I haven't been able to found out why this happens.
Can anyone shed a light on this?
On 30/04/2021 06:00, Jan Drögehoff wrote:
After the Fedora 34 update on tuesday kded5 has been nagging me to unlock my KDE wallet which is strange considering it should be unlocked by SDDM usind the pam module.
After asking around on irc and finding this [1] Ask Fedora post this seems to be more than a one time occurance but I haven't been able to found out why this happens.
Can anyone shed a light on this?
I ran into the same problem.
I figured I'd "experiment" by deleting (actually moving) what I thought would be my old wallet. I did....
mv ~/.kde/share/apps/kwallet ~/.kde/share/apps/kwallet-old
I then logged out. Upon logging back in, much to my surprise, everything worked!
This is good, since I couldn't recall what the password may be.
On 30/04/2021 06:00, Jan Drögehoff wrote:
I ran into the same problem.
I figured I'd "experiment" by deleting (actually moving) what I thought would be my old wallet. I did....
mv ~/.kde/share/apps/kwallet ~/.kde/share/apps/kwallet-old
Interesting for me the wallet was under ~/.kde/share/apps/kwalletd and even after moving it and creating a new default wallet it continues to happen
I then logged out. Upon logging back in, much to my surprise, everything worked!
This is good, since I couldn't recall what the password may be.
Oddly enough doing random things seemed to have fixed it for me to, just to reappear a few boots later I'd say its harddrive corruption but then it randomly works again
On 30/04/2021 15:37, Jan Drögehoff wrote:
On 30/04/2021 06:00, Jan Drögehoff wrote:
I ran into the same problem.
I figured I'd "experiment" by deleting (actually moving) what I thought would be my old wallet. I did....
mv ~/.kde/share/apps/kwallet ~/.kde/share/apps/kwallet-old
Interesting for me the wallet was under ~/.kde/share/apps/kwalletd and even after moving it and creating a new default wallet it continues to happen
Looking a the dates in that directory would make it a remnant from an old version of KDE>
I then logged out. Upon logging back in, much to my surprise, everything worked!
This is good, since I couldn't recall what the password may be.
Oddly enough doing random things seemed to have fixed it for me to, just to reappear a few boots later I'd say its harddrive corruption but then it randomly works again
*magic*
On 30/04/2021 15:37, Jan Drögehoff wrote:
Oddly enough doing random things seemed to have fixed it for me to, just to reappear a few boots later I'd say its harddrive corruption but then it randomly works again
Actually, same here.
I just did an update and installed some extras and the kwallet issue reappeared and then after a few more logins/logouts/reboots it started working. Thinking twice about logging out again.
At least when it was working I thought to change the password. Maybe that will make things easier when it fails again.
I have hit-or-miss experience on my laptop w/ full disk encryption, meaning some logins it asks for password, some - does not (meaning race?). On my desktop w/o full disk encryption it does not happen and kwallet is always unlocked on login.
--- Best regards, Alex
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On Friday, April 30th, 2021 at 13:26, Ed Greshko ed.greshko@greshko.com wrote:
On 30/04/2021 15:37, Jan Drögehoff wrote:
Oddly enough doing random things seemed to have fixed it for me to, just to reappear a few boots later
I'd say its harddrive corruption but then it randomly works again
Actually, same here.
I just did an update and installed some extras and the kwallet issue reappeared and then after a few more
logins/logouts/reboots it started working. Thinking twice about logging out again.
At least when it was working I thought to change the password. Maybe that will make things easier
when it fails again.
Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread.
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On 30/04/2021 19:44, Alex Gurenko wrote:
I have hit-or-miss experience on my laptop w/ full disk encryption, meaning some logins it asks for password, some - does not (meaning race?). On my desktop w/o full disk encryption it does not happen and kwallet is always unlocked on login.
I don't use disk encryption on my desktop and it still is a hit or miss situation. :-(
On 30/04/2021 19:44, Alex Gurenko wrote:
On my desktop w/o full disk encryption it does not happen and kwallet is always unlocked on login.
Does your desktop have a Wifi connection that gets started at login?
I think that may be the difference. But I don't have time to test this evening.
Yeah, fair enough, I have LAN connection on a desktop, and kwallet popup is for the Wifi, my bad. I'll setup Wifi on a desktop and see if that will also cause kwallet prompts
--- Best regards, Alex
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On Friday, April 30th, 2021 at 14:35, Ed Greshko ed.greshko@greshko.com wrote:
On 30/04/2021 19:44, Alex Gurenko wrote:
On my desktop w/o full disk encryption it does not happen and kwallet is always unlocked on login.
Does your desktop have a Wifi connection that gets started at login?
I think that may be the difference. But I don't have time to test this evening.
Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread.
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On 30/04/2021 21:10, Alex Gurenko wrote:
Yeah, fair enough, I have LAN connection on a desktop, and kwallet popup is for the Wifi, my bad. I'll setup Wifi on a desktop and see if that will also cause kwallet prompts
My theory didn't pan out.
I thought there may be a race condition between the wallet being opened and the password request for the Wifi connection. I disabled the auto-connection of the Wifi but when I started chrome it then requested opening the wallet.
Anyway, I checked the journal and found....
May 01 06:47:09 meimei.greshko.com kwalletd5[2565]: Wallet failed to get opened by PAM, error code is -9
at login time.
On 01/05/2021 07:24, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 30/04/2021 21:10, Alex Gurenko wrote:
Yeah, fair enough, I have LAN connection on a desktop, and kwallet popup is for the Wifi, my bad. I'll setup Wifi on a desktop and see if that will also cause kwallet prompts
My theory didn't pan out.
I thought there may be a race condition between the wallet being opened and the password request for the Wifi connection. I disabled the auto-connection of the Wifi but when I started chrome it then requested opening the wallet.
Anyway, I checked the journal and found....
May 01 06:47:09 meimei.greshko.com kwalletd5[2565]: Wallet failed to get opened by PAM, error code is -9
at login time.
Submitted https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1955860
On 30/04/2021 21:10, Alex Gurenko wrote:
My theory didn't pan out.
I thought there may be a race condition between the wallet being opened and the password request for the Wifi connection. I disabled the auto-connection of the Wifi but when I started chrome it then requested opening the wallet.
Anyway, I checked the journal and found....
May 01 06:47:09 meimei.greshko.com kwalletd5[2565]: Wallet failed to get opened by PAM, error code is -9
at login time.
This is better than what I expected I believed there to be some kind of pam configuration issue but at least its not that
Submitted https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1955860
I restarted my laptop to get fresh results to add to this but now I cannot replicate it as much as I try I put my money on it being a race condition inside the pam module
I had the same problem on Fedora 33 with kwallet demanding a password. The most reliable way to reproduce was to log out and in again without a reboot. I had to disable kwallet to avoid this issue.
This was a fresh install with no remnants of old versions in the home directory.
On Fri 30 Apr 2021, 12:45 Alex Gurenko, agurenko@protonmail.com wrote:
I have hit-or-miss experience on my laptop w/ full disk encryption, meaning some logins it asks for password, some - does not (meaning race?). On my desktop w/o full disk encryption it does not happen and kwallet is always unlocked on login.
Best regards, Alex
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On Friday, April 30th, 2021 at 13:26, Ed Greshko ed.greshko@greshko.com wrote:
On 30/04/2021 15:37, Jan Drögehoff wrote:
Oddly enough doing random things seemed to have fixed it for me to,
just to reappear a few boots later
I'd say its harddrive corruption but then it randomly works again
Actually, same here.
I just did an update and installed some extras and the kwallet issue
reappeared and then after a few more
logins/logouts/reboots it started working. Thinking twice about logging
out again.
At least when it was working I thought to change the password. Maybe
that will make things easier
when it fails again.
Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread.
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