unclear about bug reporting for provisional kde repos

[Petrus de Calguarium]

Should bugs be reported for kde-4.4.92 rpms that are provisionally provided by 
the out-of-fedora kde-unstable repo?

Or should one wait for kde-4.5 to enter at least (fedora) updates-testing 
(since these are most likely kde programming, not fedora packaging, issues)?

Eg., since a couple of weeks, wobbly windows no longer wobble; since a couple 
of weeks, desktop cube no longer works; possibly others...

[Colin J Thomson]

On Saturday 10 July 2010 19:49:24 Petrus de Calguarium wrote:

>  Eg., since a couple of weeks, wobbly windows no longer wobble; since
> a
>  couple of weeks, desktop cube no longer works; possibly others... 
Not much help really to you but..

I reckon it could be a video driver issue, all the "eye candy" is working fine 
here using rpmfusions nvidia packages.

Colin
-- 
Fedora release 13 (Goddard)
Registered Linux user number #342953

[Petrus de Calguarium]

Colin J Thomson wrote:

>  I reckon it could be a video driver issue, all the "eye
> candy" is working
>  fine here using rpmfusions nvidia packages. 
I have transparency and others, but just got a message stating that:

"The following desktop effects could not be activated:

 -Blur
 -Cover Switch
 -Desktop Cube
 -Desktop Cube Animation
 -Flip Switch
 -Magic Lamp
 -Wobbly Windows"

Maybe it is an Intel video driver issue? How would I determine that for 
certain?

[Colin J Thomson]

On Saturday 10 July 2010 22:49:48 Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
>  Colin J Thomson wrote:
>  > I reckon it could be a video driver issue, all the "eye candy" is working
>  > fine here using rpmfusions nvidia packages.
>  
>  I have transparency and others, but just got a message stating that:
>  
>  "The following desktop effects could not be activated:
>  
>   -Blur
>   -Cover Switch
>   -Desktop Cube
>   -Desktop Cube Animation
>   -Flip Switch
>   -Magic Lamp
>   -Wobbly Windows" 
Interesting, I have seen this when I tried to use the Nouveau drivers a while 
back, never could get those to work with the Desktop effects.

>  Maybe it is an Intel video driver issue? How would I determine that
> for
>  certain? 
Possibly checking Xsession and Xorg logs may shed some light on the problem, 
could it be a Kwin problem?

Other than that I can't really help sorry, maybe other Intel gfx users can.

Colin
-- 
Fedora release 13 (Goddard)
Registered Linux user number #342953

[Gabriel Ramirez]

On 07/10/2010 05:09 PM, Colin J Thomson wrote:
>  On Saturday 10 July 2010 22:49:48 Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
> > Colin J Thomson wrote: 
> > I have transparency and others, but just got a message stating
> that:
> >
> > "The following desktop effects could not be activated:
> >
> >   -Blur
> >   -Cover Switch
> >   -Desktop Cube
> >   -Desktop Cube Animation
> >   -Flip Switch
> >   -Magic Lamp
> >   -Wobbly Windows" 
> > Maybe it is an Intel video driver issue? How would I determine
> that for
> > certain?
>
>  Possibly checking Xsession and Xorg logs may shed some light on the problem,
>  could it be a Kwin problem?
>
>  Other than that I can't really help sorry, maybe other Intel gfx users can.
>
>  Colin 
Hi,

seems which kde 4.5 rc2 have blacklisted some desktop effects in a 
driver/mesa combination in previous kde no notifications appeared about 
desktop effects

because in my intel 945GME  cannot activate: Blur and Magic Lamp, and 
get note about this in ~.xsession-errors

but after enabled the option disable functionality checks in the 
advanced tab the above two effects are enabled and working

Gabriel

[Petrus de Calguarium]

Gabriel Ramirez wrote:

>  after enabled the option disable functionality checks in the
>  advanced tab the above two effects are enabled and working 

Thanks. That restored my functionality.

Curiously, I have long since observed this setting and never enabled it and 
everything worked fine. Now I have to enable it to get everything to work fine.

[Gabriel Ramirez]

On 07/11/2010 12:29 AM, Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
>  Gabriel Ramirez wrote:
>
> > after enabled the option disable functionality checks in the
> > advanced tab the above two effects are enabled and working
>
>
>  Thanks. That restored my functionality.
>
>  Curiously, I have long since observed this setting and never enabled it and
>  everything worked fine. Now I have to enable it to get everything to work fine. 
seems which the blacklist got in effect from kde 4.5 rc2 (maybe I'm 
wrong) to have Desktop Effects enabled in majority of machines.

because in KDE 4.4.90 (was it RC1? ) that setting was disabled too in my 
case and no notifications about disabled Desktop Effects appeared, well 
in 4.4.90 kwin crashed two or three times by day when using Desktop Grid 
and sometimes the Blur Effect was disabled upon kwin restart

but in 4.4.92 after two hours no kwin crashes and my desktop effects are 
working perfectly.

Gabriel

[Kevin Kofler]

Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
>  Thanks. That restored my functionality.
>  
>  Curiously, I have long since observed this setting and never enabled it
>  and everything worked fine. Now I have to enable it to get everything to
>  work fine. 
Upstream added new tests for individual effects to disable the effects which 
cause most trouble for cards on which they can cause trouble.

        Kevin Kofler