Presentation & Documentation

[Gerardo Rosales]

Hi guys,

I hope this email find you all well.

I've been collaborating with the translation team for little more than a
year, this is my user page for the Fedora Project [1].

I  recently joined to the KDE-SIG because after jumping from DEs I still
find KDE Plasma to be the DE that suits best my needs.

I want to do something more than just report bugs, after checking the
SIGs/KDE page [2], I decided to collaborate with the Fedora spin-specific
documentation:

   - Release Notes. (I would like to work on this for this release, and
   also future ones)
   - KDE Wiki.
   - Desktop User Guide.

I would like to get your feedback on the things that you will like and/or
needs to be included, and in this way we can make a To Do list and set work
priorities to start on.

I can't finish this without thank you all for your hard work/effort to
offer us a great DE for Fedora.

[1] - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Kibou#Me_and_the_Fedora_Project
[2] - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE

​Regards​
,
Gerardo Rosales | *Linux user #471667.*

*"There is nothing outside of yourself that can ever enable you to get
better, stronger, richer, quicker, or smarter. Everything is within.
Everything exists. Seek nothing outside of yourself." *
Miyamoto Musashi.

[Timothy Murphy]

Gerardo Rosales wrote:

>  I want to do something more than just report bugs, after checking
> the
>  SIGs/KDE page [2], I decided to collaborate with the Fedora spin-specific
>  documentation:
>  
>     - Release Notes. (I would like to work on this for this release, and
>     also future ones)
>     - KDE Wiki.
>     - Desktop User Guide. 
Your offer sounds very generous to me.
As a lowly KDE user, I find KDE documentation completely chaotic,
and I have no idea where to look if I have a problem with KDE,
which unfortunately is often the case.

Where for example is the Desktop User Guide you mention?
I don't see any mention of it in https://wiki.kde.org/
which I assume is the KDE Wiki you mention.

>  I would like to get your feedback on the things that you will like
> and/or
>  needs to be included, and in this way we can make a To Do list and set
>  work priorities to start on. 
I'd like to see (perhaps they already exist?)
1. a KDE FAQ
2. an explanation of the basic features of KDE

>  I can't finish this without thank you all for your hard
> work/effort to
>  offer us a great DE for Fedora. 
Sadly, I have not found KDE-5 to be an improvement on KDE-4.
As far as I am concerned - and no doubt I am atypical -
KDE-5 simply introduced a whole lot of problems,
some of which have now been solved,
and nothing at all of any relevance to my simple needs.

-- 
Timothy Murphy  
gayleard /at/ eircom.net
School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin

[Luigi Toscano]

On Wednesday 25 of November 2015 12:36:01 Timothy Murphy wrote:
>  Gerardo Rosales wrote:
>  > I want to do something more than just report bugs, after checking the
>  > SIGs/KDE page [2], I decided to collaborate with the Fedora spin-specific
>  > 
>  > documentation:
>  >    - Release Notes. (I would like to work on this for this release, and
>  >    also future ones)
>  >    - KDE Wiki.
>  >    - Desktop User Guide.
>  
>  Your offer sounds very generous to me.
>  As a lowly KDE user, I find KDE documentation completely chaotic,
>  and I have no idea where to look if I have a problem with KDE,
>  which unfortunately is often the case. 
The KDE Docs team being heavily understaffed does not help, sadly.
You are looking for troubleshoot guide, I guess. 

>  
>  Where for example is the Desktop User Guide you mention?
>  I don't see any mention of it in https://wiki.kde.org/
>  which I assume is the KDE Wiki you mention. 
Afaik there is no "Desktop User Guide" on kde.org side; maybe something Fedora 
specific?

>  
>  > I would like to get your feedback on the things that you will like and/or
>  > needs to be included, and in this way we can make a To Do list and set
>  > work priorities to start on.
>  
>  I'd like to see (perhaps they already exist?)
>  1. a KDE FAQ
>  2. an explanation of the basic features of KDE 
For example 
https://docs.kde.org/index.php?application=plasma-desktop&language=en

https://docs.kde.org/index.php?application=fundamentals&language=en
Yes, Fundamentals manual needs to be updated.

Ciao
-- 
Luigi

[Timothy Murphy]

Luigi Toscano wrote:

> > 2. an explanation of the basic features of KDE 
>  For example
>  https://docs.kde.org/index.php?application=plasma-desktop&language=en 
Thanks, I'll look at that.

> https://docs.kde.org/index.php?application=fundamentals&language=en
>  Yes, Fundamentals manual needs to be updated. 
I see this is for KDE-4, but that's probably just as good for my purpose.


-- 
Timothy Murphy  
gayleard /at/ eircom.net
School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin

[Gerardo Rosales]

There are two documentation sites, Fedora spin-specific and kde.org. I
would like to collaborate with kde.org in the future.

> > Where for example is the Desktop User Guide you mention? 
Based on the SIGs/KDE site [1], it would be doing something like this [2]
but for Fedora KDE spin.

> > I'd like to see (perhaps they already exist?)
>  >1. a KDE FAQ
>  >2. an explanation of the basic features of KDE 
I believe it can be done in KDE wiki [3] while trying not to double efforts
with kde.org

What I believe is important to identify is which topics can be covered only
for Fedora KDE and which can be worked upstream, if needed I can try to
collaborate with the upstream documentation on the go/as needed.

[1]: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE#How_you_can_help
[2]: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/DesktopUserGuide
[3]: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KDE

Saludos,
Gerardo Rosales | *Linux user #471667.*

*"There is nothing outside of yourself that can ever enable you to get
better, stronger, richer, quicker, or smarter. Everything is within.
Everything exists. Seek nothing outside of yourself." *
Miyamoto Musashi.

On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 7:28 AM, Timothy Murphy <gayleard(a)eircom.net&gt; wrote:

>  Luigi Toscano wrote:
>
>  >> 2. an explanation of the basic features of KDE
>
>  > For example
>  > https://docs.kde.org/index.php?application=plasma-desktop&language=en
>
>  Thanks, I'll look at that.
>
>  > https://docs.kde.org/index.php?application=fundamentals&language=en
>  > Yes, Fundamentals manual needs to be updated.
>
>  I see this is for KDE-4, but that's probably just as good for my purpose.
>
>
>  --
>  Timothy Murphy
>  gayleard /at/ eircom.net
>  School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin
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[Peter G.]

Gerardo Rosales wrote:

>  *"There is nothing outside of yourself that can ever 
enable you to get
>  better, stronger, richer, quicker, or smarter.  
Everything is
within.
>  Everything exists. Seek nothing outside of  
yourself." *
>  Miyamoto Musashi. 
KDE is the elephant in the Fedora/Red Hat room. Thanks 
for stepping up to the plate :-)