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Hi friends,
Ref: 3.1.2-1.fc16.x86_64
Can't update the system using Apper. Error messages: - - No network connection available - - Cannot refresh cache when offline
Anybody helps? It makes no sense put Apper online.
Ps. FF8 and TB8 have normal access to internet, so network is ok.
Thanks,
- -- Lucélio Gomes de Freitas ETFCSF-> U.G.F.-> P.U.C.(RJ) Engº, Analista Suporte(Free Mind). Email: aa.lucelio@gmail.com Tel: 55 0XX 21 85964911
Hello.
The behavior of not recognizing the internet connection established with anything else but NetworkManager-gnome is present in KDE for KDE apps since the inception of KDE4, maybe even sooner. However many KDE apps although don't recognize the connection they work just fine. As for Apper, when it comes to updating the system I prefer the command line interface of yum; it's much faster, reliable and has a very cool verbosed output. So, su -c 'yum update' is in my opinion the best way to go.
Kind regards,
On Friday 02 December 2011 23:01:13 Lucélio Gomes de Freitas wrote:
Hi friends,
Ref: 3.1.2-1.fc16.x86_64
Can't update the system using Apper. Error messages:
- No network connection available
- Cannot refresh cache when offline
Anybody helps? It makes no sense put Apper online.
Ps. FF8 and TB8 have normal access to internet, so network is ok.
Thanks,
On Saturday 03 December 2011 09:54:49 Mircea Sava wrote:
The behavior of not recognizing the internet connection established with anything else but NetworkManager-gnome is present in KDE for KDE apps since the inception of KDE4, maybe even sooner.
I have not seen any KDE application complain about missing internet connection (including apper), although I do not have NetworkManager installed and running (Why would you want to use NetworkManager for a desktop PC with an "always on" wired LAN connection?). So at least it seems to default to assuming that there is a network connection if no NetworkManger is running.
As for Apper, when it comes to updating the system I prefer the command line interface of yum; it's much faster, reliable and has a very cool verbosed output. So, su -c 'yum update' is in my opinion the best way to go.
If you want a gui, use yumex. Every time I tried a different gui for updates or installing packages, I came back to yumex. It however also uses NetworkManager for internet connection check (and does default to "no connection" if no NetworkManager is running), but the check can be disabled in the preferences.
Regards, Lukas
Lukas Middendorf,
Thank you for your attention.
Em 03-12-2011 09:00, Lukas Middendorf escreveu:
On Saturday 03 December 2011 09:54:49 Mircea Sava wrote:
The behavior of not recognizing the internet connection established with anything else but NetworkManager-gnome is present in KDE for KDE apps since the inception of KDE4, maybe even sooner.
I have not seen any KDE application complain about missing internet connection (including apper), although I do not have NetworkManager installed and running (Why would you want to use NetworkManager for a desktop PC with an "always on" wired LAN connection?).
Of course the persons behind this know the reasons. I think that it could be like a warnning message when compiling a source, if you want only one result, it is ok, ignore the rest. But there is a reason for the warnning.
So at least it seems to default to assuming that there is a network connection if no NetworkManger is running.
As for Apper, when it comes to updating the system I prefer the command line interface of yum; it's much faster, reliable and has a very cool verbosed output. So, su -c 'yum update' is in my opinion the best way to go.
I agree, and I use this way since the begining (F??-x86_64). My problem is NOT emergency, I decided to give Apper a try, it came by default on my 3.1.2-1.fc16.x86_64.
And as a developer, I think that our friends that are responsable for Apper would like to have a feed back. And I would like to have it working very well. For me It is not necessary to close a not very used alternative, let it there working 100%.
By now, I would like to fix this problem, but also not to lose the opportunity to learn. Do you know someone that could help me?
If you want a gui, use yumex. Every time I tried a different gui for updates or installing packages, I came back to yumex.
Thanks, Yumex is also my friend, I know it since a long time.
It however also uses NetworkManager for internet connection check (and does default to "no connection" if no NetworkManager is running), but the check can be disabled in the preferences.
Excellent, this could be a good sugestion for our friend of Apper. I would like to e-mail them. But I don't know where. Any help is well come.
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Thx.
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