F12 KDE live feedback: extremely smooth and polished !

[linux guy]

I ran F12 KDE Live for a couple hours last night.  Mostly surfing and
doing what I could do without having access to my real data.

It wouldn't run properly on my laptop. (HP HDX9494 aka Dragon).  It
installed fine and it ran OK, but the video on the laptop display was
corrupted.  You could see the windows and icons, but they were a very
dim blue color like you were looking through a snowstorm.

This isn't the first time I've had video trouble with Fedora and this
machine.  I currently have an open bug attributed to another display
problem.  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525767

Because of this issue I stopped running F12 on my laptop.

I then installed it on my wife's HP laptop, where it ran almost
perfectly.

F12 looks great.  Everything worked perfectly except for what can best
be described as a bit of a stutter with kickoff when in classic mode and
selecting from various items.

All the laptop functionality worked great.  Sound, video, wifi, etc.  It
was all there and without any intervention on my part.  We've come a
long way, baby !

All in all, I give F12 KDE an A+ from what I saw in my test.

I am going to log a bug about the video problem on my laptop.

[Rex Dieter]

Linuxguy123 wrote:
> I ran F12 KDE Live for a couple hours last night.  Mostly surfing and
> doing what I could do without having access to my real data.

...
> F12 looks great.  Everything worked perfectly except for what can best
> be described as a bit of a stutter with kickoff when in classic mode and
> selecting from various items.
>
> All the laptop functionality worked great.  Sound, video, wifi, etc.  It
> was all there and without any intervention on my part.  We've come a
> long way, baby !
>
> All in all, I give F12 KDE an A+ from what I saw in my test.

How are we supposed to make things better based on constructive feedback 
like that?  Now I need to find my pointy stick to deflate everyone's 
balooning egos.  Thanks.

-- Rex

p.s.  No seriously, thanks. :)

[linux guy]

On Fri, 2009-10-09 at 10:31 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
> Linuxguy123 wrote:
> > All in all, I give F12 KDE an A+ from what I saw in my test.
>
> How are we supposed to make things better based on constructive feedback 
> like that?  Now I need to find my pointy stick to deflate everyone's 
> balooning egos.  Thanks.

:laughs:

There is only one thing to do when software reaches that level of polish
and stability... add more features !

Seriously, F12 looks great.  In the back of my mind yesterday I was
wondering what the KDE team is going to do when KDE4 is completely done.
Because it is starting to look darn polished.

The second laptop I ran F12 on usually runs Vista.  Its my wife's
laptop.  I've always hated it.  It was the first time I ran Linux on it.
I couldn't believe how much I liked it once it was running Linux.  Time
for a dual boot installation !

I reported the display issue.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528188

I hope it and the other two possibly related issues get some attention
in the near future.

The reason I wanted to test F12 was to see if the sound issues I have in
F11 have been resolved.  I don't know if the display issue is hurting my
laptop so I was loathe to run the session any longer than I had to.  Not
only that, I could hardly see what was happening in the session.

Keep up the good work, guys.

[Jaroslav Reznik]

On Friday 09 October 2009 17:50:46 Linuxguy123 wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-10-09 at 10:31 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
> > Linuxguy123 wrote:
> > > All in all, I give F12 KDE an A+ from what I saw in my test.
> >
> > How are we supposed to make things better based on constructive feedback
> > like that?  Now I need to find my pointy stick to deflate everyone's
> > balooning egos.  Thanks.
>
> :laughs:
>
> There is only one thing to do when software reaches that level of polish
> and stability... add more features !

We're preparing lot of new features for F13! Once I finish all features pages 
I'll send notice here. For example fingerprint support for KDE looks great.

Jaroslav
> Seriously, F12 looks great.  In the back of my mind yesterday I was
> wondering what the KDE team is going to do when KDE4 is completely done.
> Because it is starting to look darn polished.
>
> The second laptop I ran F12 on usually runs Vista.  Its my wife's
> laptop.  I've always hated it.  It was the first time I ran Linux on it.
> I couldn't believe how much I liked it once it was running Linux.  Time
> for a dual boot installation !
>
> I reported the display issue.
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528188
>
> I hope it and the other two possibly related issues get some attention
> in the near future.
>
> The reason I wanted to test F12 was to see if the sound issues I have in
> F11 have been resolved.  I don't know if the display issue is hurting my
> laptop so I was loathe to run the session any longer than I had to.  Not
> only that, I could hardly see what was happening in the session.
>
> Keep up the good work, guys.
>
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[linux guy]

On Sat, 2009-10-10 at 10:09 +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> On Friday 09 October 2009 17:50:46 Linuxguy123 wrote:
> > On Fri, 2009-10-09 at 10:31 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
> > > Linuxguy123 wrote:
> > > > All in all, I give F12 KDE an A+ from what I saw in my test.
> > >
> > > How are we supposed to make things better based on constructive feedback
> > > like that?  Now I need to find my pointy stick to deflate everyone's
> > > balooning egos.  Thanks.
> >
> > :laughs:
> >
> > There is only one thing to do when software reaches that level of polish
> > and stability... add more features !
>
> We're preparing lot of new features for F13! Once I finish all features pages 
> I'll send notice here. For example fingerprint support for KDE looks great.

Can't wait to see the list.  I think Fedora is achieving a good balance
between pushing the envelope and shipping something that is
usable/stable and polished now.  About the only standout issue that I
see is sound.  Hopefully that is taken care of in F12...

[Jaroslav Reznik]

On Friday 09 October 2009 17:31:26 Rex Dieter wrote:
> Linuxguy123 wrote:
> > I ran F12 KDE Live for a couple hours last night.  Mostly surfing and
> > doing what I could do without having access to my real data.
>
> ...
> > F12 looks great.  Everything worked perfectly except for what can best
> > be described as a bit of a stutter with kickoff when in classic mode and
> > selecting from various items.
> >
> > All the laptop functionality worked great.  Sound, video, wifi, etc.  It
> > was all there and without any intervention on my part.  We've come a
> > long way, baby !
> >
> > All in all, I give F12 KDE an A+ from what I saw in my test.
>
> How are we supposed to make things better based on constructive feedback
> like that?  Now I need to find my pointy stick to deflate everyone's
> balooning egos.  Thanks.

I've fixed it already, see my commits.

kdelibs
* Sat Oct 10 2009 Jaroslav Reznik  4.3.2-666
- add random auto reset

kdebase
* Sat Oct 10 2009 Jaroslav Reznik  4.3.2-666
- Dolphin removes random files

Jaroslav

PS: thanks all, users, developers, pope! ;-)
> -- Rex
>
> p.s.  No seriously, thanks. :)
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