Transifex "cs" vs. "cs_CZ"

[Adam Pribyl]

Sorry if this was asked already, there is so many emails about transifex 
now, I am not able to read all of them.

We have similar problem to that described in 
http://getsatisfaction.com/indifex/topics/_translate_now_cannot_be_activated

While I created Czech team on Transifex as "cs", there are projects that 
have language as "cs_CZ". Do we have to create two teams? As cs is more or 
less equal to cs_CZ, I'd love to have the same team for both... is it 
possible?

Adam Pribyl

[Dimitris Glezos]

On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Adam Pribyl <pribyl(a)lowlevel.cz&gt; wrote:
>  We have similar problem to that described in
>  http://getsatisfaction.com/indifex/topics/_translate_now_cannot_be_activated
>
>  While I created Czech team on Transifex as "cs", there are projects that
>  have language as "cs_CZ". Do we have to create two teams? As cs is more or
>  less equal to cs_CZ, I'd love to have the same team for both... is it
>  possible? 
We should use one language team; it will make things much easier (ie
not have to administrate two memberships etc). I guess the correct one
is cs.. this is the standard Czech locale, right?

-d


-- 
Dimitris Glezos

Transifex: The Multilingual Publishing Revolution
http://www.transifex.net/ -- http://www.indifex.com/

[Piotr Drąg]

2011/3/1 Dimitris Glezos <glezos(a)indifex.com&gt;:
>  We should use one language team; it will make things much easier (ie
>  not have to administrate two memberships etc). I guess the correct one
>  is cs.. this is the standard Czech locale, right?
>  
Yes. The problem is that Publican uses XML language codes (cs_CZ,
uk_UA etc.), and software uses only cs, uk etc locales. The right
solution would be linking cs_CZ and cs-CZ translations with cs team.
Do you want us to file a ticket on this?

I already have uk and uk-UA translations for TQSG.

-- 
Piotr Drąg
http://raven.pmail.pl/

[Dimitris Glezos]

On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Piotr Drąg <piotrdrag(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  2011/3/1 Dimitris Glezos <glezos(a)indifex.com&gt;:
> > We should use one language team; it will make things much easier (ie
> > not have to administrate two memberships etc). I guess the correct one
> > is cs.. this is the standard Czech locale, right?
>
>  Yes. The problem is that Publican uses XML language codes (cs_CZ,
>  uk_UA etc.), and software uses only cs, uk etc locales. The right
>  solution would be linking cs_CZ and cs-CZ translations with cs team. 
I think Publican (or the Fedora toolchain around it) should be adapted
to support cs.

>  Do you want us to file a ticket on this? 
We could have a ticket filed. Fwiw, support for multiple languages per
team is quite a big change in the codebase.

-d

>  I already have uk and uk-UA translations for TQSG. 


-- 
Dimitris Glezos

Transifex: The Multilingual Publishing Revolution
http://www.transifex.net/ -- http://www.indifex.com/

[Miloš Komarčević]

On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Dimitris Glezos <glezos(a)indifex.com&gt; wrote:
>  We could have a ticket filed. Fwiw, support for multiple languages per
>  team is quite a big change in the codebase.
>  
You mean multiple locales?

I.e., we can no longer have "sr" and "sr-Latn"/"sr@latin"
under the same team?

If so, this is a big loss of feature compared to Tx < 1.0 instance on fp.o :(

Regards,
Miloš

[Dimitris Glezos]

On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Miloš Komarčević <kmilos(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Dimitris Glezos
> <glezos(a)indifex.com&gt; wrote:
> >
> > We could have a ticket filed. Fwiw, support for multiple languages per
> > team is quite a big change in the codebase.
> >
>
>  You mean multiple locales?
>
>  I.e., we can no longer have "sr" and "sr-Latn"/"sr@latin"
> under the same team?
>
>  If so, this is a big loss of feature compared to Tx < 1.0 instance on fp.o :( 
Previously we didn't even have teams.. everyone could submit to every
language. :)

We can just create separate teams for now, if truly needed (like in
the case of sr/sr@latn), until we have a solution.

-d


-- 
Dimitris Glezos

Transifex: The Multilingual Publishing Revolution
http://www.transifex.net/ -- http://www.indifex.com/

[Miloš Komarčević]

On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Dimitris Glezos <glezos(a)indifex.com&gt; wrote:
>  Previously we didn't even have teams.. everyone could submit to every
>  language. :) 
Ah, I get it, so that grouping was purely cosmetic for translate.fp.o
website presentation purposes only.

>  We can just create separate teams for now, if truly needed (like in
>  the case of sr/sr@latn), until we have a solution. 
Would be nice to take stuff like this onto account during design,
there are more languages that use more than one script and/or other
variant, thus resulting in multiple locales typically handled by one
team.

Regards,
Miloš

[Yuri Chornoivan]

 Від кого: "Piotr DrД…g" <piotrdrag(a)gmail.com&gt; 
 Кому: "Fedora Translation Project List" <trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org&gt; 
 Дата: 1 березня 2011, 14:35:29 
 Тема: Re: Transifex "cs" vs. "cs_CZ" 
 


>  2011/3/1 Dimitris Glezos <glezos(a)indifex.com&gt;:
>  > We should use one language team; it will make things much easier (ie
>  > not have to administrate two memberships etc). I guess the correct one
>  > is cs.. this is the standard Czech locale, right?
>  >
>  
>  Yes. The problem is that Publican uses XML language codes (cs_CZ,
>  uk_UA etc.), and software uses only cs, uk etc locales. The right
>  solution would be linking cs_CZ and cs-CZ translations with cs team.
>  Do you want us to file a ticket on this? 
That would be good, but how someone will know for what branch (uk, uk_UA, etc.) to commit
new doc translations? I think, the only solution is "one team -- one locale"
without linking.

>  
>  I already have uk and uk-UA translations for TQSG. 
I cannot commit in uk_UA locale, and noone answer my question neither in this mailing
list, nor in IRC. Should I stop committing into "uk" until the solution will be
found?

Thanks in advance for your answers.

Best regards,
Yuri

[Adam Pribyl]

On Tue, 1 Mar 2011, Dimitris Glezos wrote:

>  On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Piotr Drąg
> <piotrdrag(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
> > 2011/3/1 Dimitris Glezos <glezos(a)indifex.com&gt;:
> >> We should use one language team; it will make things much easier (ie
> >> not have to administrate two memberships etc). I guess the correct one
> >> is cs.. this is the standard Czech locale, right?
> >
> > Yes. The problem is that Publican uses XML language codes (cs_CZ,
> > uk_UA etc.), and software uses only cs, uk etc locales. The right
> > solution would be linking cs_CZ and cs-CZ translations with cs team.
>
>  I think Publican (or the Fedora toolchain around it) should be adapted
>  to support cs.
>
> > Do you want us to file a ticket on this?
>
>  We could have a ticket filed. Fwiw, support for multiple languages per
>  team is quite a big change in the codebase. 
And would it be very hard to constantly mirror the team members to another 
"language"? If it is inevitable, I may start another team for cs_CZ and 
ask people to join them both, but surely this is not very comfortable.

>  -- 
>  Dimitris Glezos 
Adam Pribyl