7:08 p.m.
Hi
It seems that POT and PO files have now been updated.
This was supposed to happen on 6-Nov, and many of us have not committed
our files yet. We now have to stop working.
http://git.fedoraproject.org/git/?p=docs/release-notes.git;a=summary
One funny thing to me, the total number of strings decreased to 1024
strings...
Could someone please let us know what is happening?
noriko
7:56 a.m.
On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 11:08:55AM +1000, Noriko Mizumoto wrote:
Hi
It seems that POT and PO files have now been updated.
This was supposed to happen on 6-Nov, and many of us have not committed
our files yet. We now have to stop working.
http://git.fedoraproject.org/git/?p=docs/release-notes.git;a=summary
One funny thing to me, the total number of strings decreased to 1024
strings...
Could someone please let us know what is happening?
Noriko,
I believe I'm the person who updated the POT, but I thought I was
giving translators early content to make sure they were able to work
as long as possible on the correct content.
Are you saying that updating the POT files destroys your previous
work? I thought that the update would simply mark new strings that
have changed a little bit as fuzzy. Does this really require that
work stop? Don't translators have a way of getting the updates
without destroying their existing work?
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8:44 a.m.
2008/11/5 Paul W. Frields <stickster(a)gmail.com>:
On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 11:08:55AM +1000, Noriko Mizumoto wrote:
> Hi
>
> It seems that POT and PO files have now been updated.
> This was supposed to happen on 6-Nov, and many of us have not committed
> our files yet. We now have to stop working.
> http://git.fedoraproject.org/git/?p=docs/release-notes.git;a=summary
>
> One funny thing to me, the total number of strings decreased to 1024
> strings...
>
> Could someone please let us know what is happening?
Noriko,
I believe I'm the person who updated the POT, but I thought I was
giving translators early content to make sure they were able to work
as long as possible on the correct content.
Are you saying that updating the POT files destroys your previous
work? I thought that the update would simply mark new strings that
have changed a little bit as fuzzy. Does this really require that
work stop? Don't translators have a way of getting the updates
without destroying their existing work?
It seems it does not destroy translations.
I started translations with an es.po file a week ago, I commited
translations some hours ago, against the new es.po file with the new
strings and it seems it does not destroy my work.
t.fp.o [1] shows for Spanish 341/476/207 (1024 strings) while my
poEdit shows 353/477/200 (1030 strings). Of course, I have to download
the new .po file to continue working.
[1] http://translate.fedoraproject.org/module/docs-release-notes
kind regards
Domingo Becker (es)
9:13 a.m.
On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 11:44:23AM -0300, Domingo Becker wrote:
2008/11/5 Paul W. Frields <stickster(a)gmail.com>:
> On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 11:08:55AM +1000, Noriko Mizumoto wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> It seems that POT and PO files have now been updated.
>> This was supposed to happen on 6-Nov, and many of us have not committed
>> our files yet. We now have to stop working.
>> http://git.fedoraproject.org/git/?p=docs/release-notes.git;a=summary
>>
>> One funny thing to me, the total number of strings decreased to 1024
>> strings...
>>
>> Could someone please let us know what is happening?
>
> Noriko,
>
> I believe I'm the person who updated the POT, but I thought I was
> giving translators early content to make sure they were able to work
> as long as possible on the correct content.
>
> Are you saying that updating the POT files destroys your previous
> work? I thought that the update would simply mark new strings that
> have changed a little bit as fuzzy. Does this really require that
> work stop? Don't translators have a way of getting the updates
> without destroying their existing work?
>
It seems it does not destroy translations.
I started translations with an es.po file a week ago, I commited
translations some hours ago, against the new es.po file with the new
strings and it seems it does not destroy my work.
t.fp.o [1] shows for Spanish 341/476/207 (1024 strings) while my
poEdit shows 353/477/200 (1030 strings). Of course, I have to download
the new .po file to continue working.
I wonder what will happen when we do the *next* change of the POT and
PO. I expect that the gettext utils would mark some things fuzzy if
there is a slight change between your work and the new updates. I
would certainly hope that no work would be completely lost or futile!
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9:55 a.m.
It doesn't destroy it. If it did, you would have to re-translate all
strings, every time you update a POT file...
One thing to be careful about is the msgmerge and msgfmt commands. They will
destroy your po files if it cannot merge. So I wrote a simple script to
"backup" my po file before I merge it. Se below.
The only problem with updating the POT file, is when you update too early
(not completely finished release notes). Then translators will translate
things that maybe will be deleted in later versions and waste time. So I
say, if the doc is almost finished (and only minor fixes are made) then
update the POT file as often as possible.
#!/bin/bash
LANG=sv
echo "kor.."
cp sv.po sv.po.beforemerge.$RANDOM
msgmerge sv.po *.pot > tmp.po
mv tmp.po sv.po
msgfmt -cvo /dev/null sv.po
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Paul W. Frields <stickster(a)gmail.com>wrote:
On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 11:44:23AM -0300, Domingo Becker wrote:
> 2008/11/5 Paul W. Frields <stickster(a)gmail.com>:
> > On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 11:08:55AM +1000, Noriko Mizumoto wrote:
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> It seems that POT and PO files have now been updated.
> >> This was supposed to happen on 6-Nov, and many of us have not
committed
> >> our files yet. We now have to stop working.
> >> http://git.fedoraproject.org/git/?p=docs/release-notes.git;a=summary
> >>
> >> One funny thing to me, the total number of strings decreased to 1024
> >> strings...
> >>
> >> Could someone please let us know what is happening?
> >
> > Noriko,
> >
> > I believe I'm the person who updated the POT, but I thought I was
> > giving translators early content to make sure they were able to work
> > as long as possible on the correct content.
> >
> > Are you saying that updating the POT files destroys your previous
> > work? I thought that the update would simply mark new strings that
> > have changed a little bit as fuzzy. Does this really require that
> > work stop? Don't translators have a way of getting the updates
> > without destroying their existing work?
> >
>
> It seems it does not destroy translations.
> I started translations with an es.po file a week ago, I commited
> translations some hours ago, against the new es.po file with the new
> strings and it seems it does not destroy my work.
> t.fp.o [1] shows for Spanish 341/476/207 (1024 strings) while my
> poEdit shows 353/477/200 (1030 strings). Of course, I have to download
> the new .po file to continue working.
I wonder what will happen when we do the *next* change of the POT and
PO. I expect that the gettext utils would mark some things fuzzy if
there is a slight change between your work and the new updates. I
would certainly hope that no work would be completely lost or futile!
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10:05 p.m.
Magnus Larsson さんは書きました:
It doesn't destroy it. If it did, you would have to re-translate
all
strings, every time you update a POT file...
One thing to be careful about is the msgmerge and msgfmt commands. They will
destroy your po files if it cannot merge. So I wrote a simple script to
"backup" my po file before I merge it. Se below.
The only problem with updating the POT file, is when you update too early
(not completely finished release notes). Then translators will translate
things that maybe will be deleted in later versions and waste time. So I
say, if the doc is almost finished (and only minor fixes are made) then
update the POT file as often as possible.
I found (I think) that Transifex does not warn any conflict but accept
the commit, thus it can override latest file with older file.
http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=docs/release-notes.git;a=history;f=po/...
#!/bin/bash
LANG=sv
echo "kor.."
cp sv.po sv.po.beforemerge.$RANDOM
msgmerge sv.po *.pot > tmp.po
mv tmp.po sv.po
msgfmt -cvo /dev/null sv.po
Thanks you Magunus,
This helps a lot.
noriko
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Paul W. Frields <stickster(a)gmail.com>wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 11:44:23AM -0300, Domingo Becker wrote:
>> 2008/11/5 Paul W. Frields <stickster(a)gmail.com>:
>>> On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 11:08:55AM +1000, Noriko Mizumoto wrote:
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> It seems that POT and PO files have now been updated.
>>>> This was supposed to happen on 6-Nov, and many of us have not
> committed
>>>> our files yet. We now have to stop working.
>>>> http://git.fedoraproject.org/git/?p=docs/release-notes.git;a=summary
>>>>
>>>> One funny thing to me, the total number of strings decreased to 1024
>>>> strings...
>>>>
>>>> Could someone please let us know what is happening?
>>> Noriko,
>>>
>>> I believe I'm the person who updated the POT, but I thought I was
>>> giving translators early content to make sure they were able to work
>>> as long as possible on the correct content.
>>>
>>> Are you saying that updating the POT files destroys your previous
>>> work? I thought that the update would simply mark new strings that
>>> have changed a little bit as fuzzy. Does this really require that
>>> work stop? Don't translators have a way of getting the updates
>>> without destroying their existing work?
>>>
>> It seems it does not destroy translations.
>> I started translations with an es.po file a week ago, I commited
>> translations some hours ago, against the new es.po file with the new
>> strings and it seems it does not destroy my work.
>> t.fp.o [1] shows for Spanish 341/476/207 (1024 strings) while my
>> poEdit shows 353/477/200 (1030 strings). Of course, I have to download
>> the new .po file to continue working.
> I wonder what will happen when we do the *next* change of the POT and
> PO. I expect that the gettext utils would mark some things fuzzy if
> there is a slight change between your work and the new updates. I
> would certainly hope that no work would be completely lost or futile!
>
> --
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6:28 a.m.
2008/11/6 Noriko Mizumoto <noriko(a)redhat.com>:
Magnus Larsson さんは書きました:
>
> It doesn't destroy it. If it did, you would have to re-translate all
> strings, every time you update a POT file...
> One thing to be careful about is the msgmerge and msgfmt commands. They
> will
> destroy your po files if it cannot merge. So I wrote a simple script to
> "backup" my po file before I merge it. Se below.
>
> The only problem with updating the POT file, is when you update too early
> (not completely finished release notes). Then translators will translate
> things that maybe will be deleted in later versions and waste time. So I
> say, if the doc is almost finished (and only minor fixes are made) then
> update the POT file as often as possible.
I found (I think) that Transifex does not warn any conflict but accept the
commit, thus it can override latest file with older file.
http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=docs/release-notes.git;a=history;f=po/...
If I commit with an older file, it will replace the new one.
But the new one was obtained from merging the .po file with the .pot file.
So, in the next merge of the .po file with the .pot file, the new
strings will appear again.
The only lost translation work would be the strings removed by the merge.
Domingo Becker
11:18 a.m.
On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 09:28:32AM -0300, Domingo Becker wrote:
2008/11/6 Noriko Mizumoto <noriko(a)redhat.com>:
> Magnus Larsson さんは書きました:
>>
>> It doesn't destroy it. If it did, you would have to re-translate all
>> strings, every time you update a POT file...
>> One thing to be careful about is the msgmerge and msgfmt commands. They
>> will
>> destroy your po files if it cannot merge. So I wrote a simple script to
>> "backup" my po file before I merge it. Se below.
>>
>> The only problem with updating the POT file, is when you update too early
>> (not completely finished release notes). Then translators will translate
>> things that maybe will be deleted in later versions and waste time. So I
>> say, if the doc is almost finished (and only minor fixes are made) then
>> update the POT file as often as possible.
>
> I found (I think) that Transifex does not warn any conflict but accept the
> commit, thus it can override latest file with older file.
>
http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=docs/release-notes.git;a=history;f=po/...
>
If I commit with an older file, it will replace the new one.
But the new one was obtained from merging the .po file with the .pot file.
So, in the next merge of the .po file with the .pot file, the new
strings will appear again.
The only lost translation work would be the strings removed by the merge.
This is how I understood it to work too, which is why I was so
surprised earlier. Looks like we have the issues resolved.
I just fixed some minor typos in a file. If I update the POT with
that new string, are we agreed that this will not be a major problem?
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7:08 p.m.
Paul W. Frields さんは書きました:
On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 11:44:23AM -0300, Domingo Becker wrote:
> 2008/11/5 Paul W. Frields <stickster(a)gmail.com>:
>> On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 11:08:55AM +1000, Noriko Mizumoto wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> It seems that POT and PO files have now been updated.
>>> This was supposed to happen on 6-Nov, and many of us have not committed
>>> our files yet. We now have to stop working.
>>> http://git.fedoraproject.org/git/?p=docs/release-notes.git;a=summary
>>>
>>> One funny thing to me, the total number of strings decreased to 1024
>>> strings...
>>>
>>> Could someone please let us know what is happening?
>> Noriko,
>>
>> I believe I'm the person who updated the POT, but I thought I was
>> giving translators early content to make sure they were able to work
>> as long as possible on the correct content.
>>
>> Are you saying that updating the POT files destroys your previous
>> work? I thought that the update would simply mark new strings that
>> have changed a little bit as fuzzy. Does this really require that
>> work stop? Don't translators have a way of getting the updates
>> without destroying their existing work?
>>
> It seems it does not destroy translations.
> I started translations with an es.po file a week ago, I commited
> translations some hours ago, against the new es.po file with the new
> strings and it seems it does not destroy my work.
> t.fp.o [1] shows for Spanish 341/476/207 (1024 strings) while my
> poEdit shows 353/477/200 (1030 strings). Of course, I have to download
> the new .po file to continue working.
I wonder what will happen when we do the *next* change of the POT and
PO. I expect that the gettext utils would mark some things fuzzy if
there is a slight change between your work and the new updates. I
would certainly hope that no work would be completely lost or futile!
Paul, don't worry it does not destroy, but the situation seems not nice.
This is how I am understanding and had experience when used to work on cvs.
The translator has been working the file on her machine not commit it to
the repository yet, let's say the version 1.0. Beside the author updated
this version with some change resulting the version 1.1. Now the
translator tried to commit the file worked, but she got error message
saying the file is conflict. Because the repository has latest version
of 1.1, while she is still trying to commit version 1.0.
She needs to merge her file of 1.0 and 1.1 locally before commit. If
there are 10 translators, this local merge must be done for each language.
If the author notified translators to commit before update, this merge
is not required.
Now I see strange thing here, and need some help.
I did 'git pull', so I got latest PO files with 1024 strings intead
1030. I did test commit po_BR.po translated with 1030 strings against
latest pt_BR.po with 1024 strings.
[noriko@noriko po]$ git commit -m 'commit test' pt_BR.po
Created commit dd92755: commit test
1 files changed, 1035 insertions(+), 4134 deletions(-)
I got no error, but it seems overwritten when I see log.
[noriko@noriko po]$ git log pt_BR.po
commit dd92755ac9c5998d2e59be8ea578d52188fa5d6c
Author: noriko <noriko(a)redhat.com>
Date: Thu Nov 6 10:39:35 2008 +1000
commit test
commit f3595ce789f269f53a6634688e468f93907717b0
Author: Paul W. Frields <stickster(a)gmail.com>
Date: Tue Nov 4 09:35:20 2008 -0500
Update POT and PO files
commit be922275841a93fd0d1887516231632e4b8cb97e
Author: Paul W. Frields <stickster(a)gmail.com>
Date: Tue Nov 4 06:45:28 2008 -0500
Update POT and PO files -- there is more new content coming before
the Novem
commit 671b060c6cb1b495d391b56ca9aaf3650c223a69
Author: Paul W. Frields <stickster(a)gmail.com>
Date: Tue Oct 21 22:13:26 2008 -0400
Update POT and PO with new XML file content
:
noriko
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1:11 a.m.
On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 11:08:29AM +1000, Noriko Mizumoto wrote:
Paul, don't worry it does not destroy, but the situation seems
not nice.
This is how I am understanding and had experience when used to work on cvs.
The translator has been working the file on her machine not commit it to
the repository yet, let's say the version 1.0. Beside the author updated
this version with some change resulting the version 1.1. Now the
translator tried to commit the file worked, but she got error message
saying the file is conflict. Because the repository has latest version of
1.1, while she is still trying to commit version 1.0.
She needs to merge her file of 1.0 and 1.1 locally before commit. If
there are 10 translators, this local merge must be done for each language.
If the author notified translators to commit before update, this merge is
not required.
If we can actually use git, we may find these merges a lot easier
because git is a better tool than cvs.
Now I see strange thing here, and need some help.
I did 'git pull', so I got latest PO files with 1024 strings intead 1030.
I did test commit po_BR.po translated with 1030 strings against latest
pt_BR.po with 1024 strings.
[noriko@noriko po]$ git commit -m 'commit test' pt_BR.po
Created commit dd92755: commit test
1 files changed, 1035 insertions(+), 4134 deletions(-)
I got no error, but it seems overwritten when I see log.
I just did a 'git pull' and this is what I see:
[kwade@calliope release-notes {master}]$ git log po/pt_BR.po
commit f3595ce789f269f53a6634688e468f93907717b0
Author: Paul W. Frields <stickster(a)gmail.com>
Date: Tue Nov 4 09:35:20 2008 -0500
Update POT and PO files
...
Where is your commit?
It is where it belongs, on your machine in your local repository.
Until you do 'git push', you do not merge your local repo to the
remote one.
Because git is a distributed version control system (DVCS), it does
not have a sense of there being a 'master' repository. Each clone of
a module has the entire commit history up to that point; this is why
you can run 'git log' and get results. It does not actually check
across the network for this information, as cvs and svn do.
When using git, we make a convetion amongst collaborators as to what
we consider to be the main/canonical repository. In our case, it is
git.fedoraproject.org/git/docs/release-notes. But it could just as
easily be the repository on your machine or my laptop.
This, I believe, is part of why git is superior at resolving
differences and doing merges. In a centralized VCS, two separate
people with checkouts of the repo can go out of sync very easily.
Eeach time you commit to your local clone of a git module, it is a
unique event that can be merged in to the designated master repo. The
same is true of work done by another person on the same content.
Hope this makes sense ... honestly, I am *still* working on
understanding what git does and why it does it, but I'm mostly happier
with it. :)
For one thing, I can work offline and make granular commits that
remain granular when I 'git push' to the main repo. It is also faster
and seems to use far fewer computing resources. ;-D
- Karsten
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7:20 a.m.
On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 11:11:28PM -0800, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote:
On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 11:08:29AM +1000, Noriko Mizumoto wrote:
> Paul, don't worry it does not destroy, but the situation seems not nice.
> This is how I am understanding and had experience when used to work on cvs.
> The translator has been working the file on her machine not commit it to
> the repository yet, let's say the version 1.0. Beside the author updated
> this version with some change resulting the version 1.1. Now the
> translator tried to commit the file worked, but she got error message
> saying the file is conflict. Because the repository has latest version of
> 1.1, while she is still trying to commit version 1.0.
> She needs to merge her file of 1.0 and 1.1 locally before commit. If
> there are 10 translators, this local merge must be done for each language.
> If the author notified translators to commit before update, this merge is
> not required.
If we can actually use git, we may find these merges a lot easier
because git is a better tool than cvs.
> Now I see strange thing here, and need some help.
> I did 'git pull', so I got latest PO files with 1024 strings intead 1030.
> I did test commit po_BR.po translated with 1030 strings against latest
> pt_BR.po with 1024 strings.
>
> [noriko@noriko po]$ git commit -m 'commit test' pt_BR.po
> Created commit dd92755: commit test
> 1 files changed, 1035 insertions(+), 4134 deletions(-)
>
> I got no error, but it seems overwritten when I see log.
I just did a 'git pull' and this is what I see:
[kwade@calliope release-notes {master}]$ git log po/pt_BR.po
commit f3595ce789f269f53a6634688e468f93907717b0
Author: Paul W. Frields <stickster(a)gmail.com>
Date: Tue Nov 4 09:35:20 2008 -0500
Update POT and PO files
...
Where is your commit?
It is where it belongs, on your machine in your local repository.
Until you do 'git push', you do not merge your local repo to the
remote one.
[...snip...]
I suspect this is the case -- that Noriko has a local commit that's
not been pushed. Since it's got a "commit test" log message that's
probably reasonable.
Noriko, it would be helpful if we understood how translators are
working? How do they retrieve POT or PO files? When and how do they
submit their work back to the repository?
We will refrain from updating POT or PO further except for scheduled
drops, but we should probably develop instructions for translators
that will help them make better use of the tools available, and rely
less on restrictive manual policies.
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6:12 p.m.
Paul W. Frields さんは書きました:
On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 11:11:28PM -0800, Karsten 'quaid'
Wade wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 11:08:29AM +1000, Noriko Mizumoto wrote:
>
[snip]
> I just did a 'git pull' and this is what I see:
>
> [kwade@calliope release-notes {master}]$ git log po/pt_BR.po
> commit f3595ce789f269f53a6634688e468f93907717b0
> Author: Paul W. Frields <stickster(a)gmail.com>
> Date: Tue Nov 4 09:35:20 2008 -0500
>
> Update POT and PO files
> ...
>
> Where is your commit?
>
> It is where it belongs, on your machine in your local repository.
> Until you do 'git push', you do not merge your local repo to the
> remote one.
[...snip...]
I suspect this is the case -- that Noriko has a local commit that's
not been pushed. Since it's got a "commit test" log message that's
probably reasonable.
Noriko, it would be helpful if we understood how translators are
working? How do they retrieve POT or PO files? When and how do they
submit their work back to the repository?
We will refrain from updating POT or PO further except for scheduled
drops, but we should probably develop instructions for translators
that will help them make better use of the tools available, and rely
less on restrictive manual policies.
Paul, all I was worried about is conflict which used to be common
problem when using cvs.
As per Domingo's mail, I found the fact that no need to worry about
conflict since DL and TX look after. This is something I did not know,
what a good news.
I am sorry making too big noise.
noriko
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11:16 p.m.
On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 10:12:53AM +1000, Noriko Mizumoto wrote:
Paul W. Frields さんは書きました:
> On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 11:11:28PM -0800, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote:
>> On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 11:08:29AM +1000, Noriko Mizumoto wrote:
>>
[snip]
>> I just did a 'git pull' and this is what I see:
>>
>> [kwade@calliope release-notes {master}]$ git log po/pt_BR.po commit
>> f3595ce789f269f53a6634688e468f93907717b0
>> Author: Paul W. Frields <stickster(a)gmail.com>
>> Date: Tue Nov 4 09:35:20 2008 -0500
>>
>> Update POT and PO files
>> ...
>>
>> Where is your commit?
>>
>> It is where it belongs, on your machine in your local repository.
>> Until you do 'git push', you do not merge your local repo to the
>> remote one.
> [...snip...]
>
> I suspect this is the case -- that Noriko has a local commit that's
> not been pushed. Since it's got a "commit test" log message
that's
> probably reasonable.
>
> Noriko, it would be helpful if we understood how translators are
> working? How do they retrieve POT or PO files? When and how do they
> submit their work back to the repository?
>
> We will refrain from updating POT or PO further except for scheduled
> drops, but we should probably develop instructions for translators
> that will help them make better use of the tools available, and rely
> less on restrictive manual policies.
Paul, all I was worried about is conflict which used to be common
problem when using cvs.
As per Domingo's mail, I found the fact that no need to worry about
conflict since DL and TX look after. This is something I did not know,
what a good news.
I am sorry making too big noise.
Does this mean you guys are OK and we can drop POT as planned? If we
update the POT later for special circumstances, things will be OK then
too?
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11:27 p.m.
Paul W. Frields さんは書きました:
On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 10:12:53AM +1000, Noriko Mizumoto wrote:
> Paul W. Frields さんは書きました:
>> On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 11:11:28PM -0800, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote:
>>> On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 11:08:29AM +1000, Noriko Mizumoto wrote:
>>>
> [snip]
>>> I just did a 'git pull' and this is what I see:
>>>
>>> [kwade@calliope release-notes {master}]$ git log po/pt_BR.po commit
>>> f3595ce789f269f53a6634688e468f93907717b0
>>> Author: Paul W. Frields <stickster(a)gmail.com>
>>> Date: Tue Nov 4 09:35:20 2008 -0500
>>>
>>> Update POT and PO files
>>> ...
>>>
>>> Where is your commit?
>>>
>>> It is where it belongs, on your machine in your local repository.
>>> Until you do 'git push', you do not merge your local repo to the
>>> remote one.
>> [...snip...]
>>
>> I suspect this is the case -- that Noriko has a local commit that's
>> not been pushed. Since it's got a "commit test" log message
that's
>> probably reasonable.
>>
>> Noriko, it would be helpful if we understood how translators are
>> working? How do they retrieve POT or PO files? When and how do they
>> submit their work back to the repository?
>>
>> We will refrain from updating POT or PO further except for scheduled
>> drops, but we should probably develop instructions for translators
>> that will help them make better use of the tools available, and rely
>> less on restrictive manual policies.
> Paul, all I was worried about is conflict which used to be common
> problem when using cvs.
> As per Domingo's mail, I found the fact that no need to worry about
> conflict since DL and TX look after. This is something I did not know,
> what a good news.
>
> I am sorry making too big noise.
Does this mean you guys are OK and we can drop POT as planned? If we
update the POT later for special circumstances, things will be OK then
too?
Yes, confirm. You can drop POT as planned.
If any unavoidable circumstances occur, please let f-t-l know asap.
Thanks a lot.
noriko
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