http://stg.fedoraproject.org

[Noriko Mizumoto]

Hi

I can not find some strings below in PO file which are appeared in 
English at the above. Looking in some other languages, those strings are 
appeared in English as well, even those languages are all 100% translated.
Where can I find them to translate?

I believe that this site is fetching latest translation periodically, 
but how often?

[http://stg.fedoraproject.org/ja/get-fedora]
Other Options
     *  Formats: DVD ISOs, Physical Media
     * Architectures: 64-bit, PPC, and others
     * Desktops: KDE, XFCE, GNOME, and others
     * Spins: Electronics Lab, Education, and others

o The section "Other Options", Formats, Architectures, Desktops, Spins 
exist in PO and have all been translated. But their descriptions such as 
'DVD ISOs, Physical Media', '64-bit PPC, and others' etc can not be 
found in PO file and left in English.

Export Regulations
By clicking on and downloading Fedora, you agree to comply with the 
following terms and conditions:
Read full export regulations

o 'Export Regulations' exists in PO and has been translated. But the 
description followed can not be found in PO and left in English.

[http://stg.fedoraproject.org/ja/get-help]
Online Classroom
The Fedora IRC Classroom periodically holds classes to help you better 
use, understand, and manage your Fedora installation. Refer to the 
Classroom page for more information on upcoming classes, and archives of 
previous class sessions.

o 'Online Classroom' exists in PO and has been translated, but the 
description followed can not be found in PO and left in English.


Regards,

noriko

[Sijis Aviles]

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 10:16 PM, noriko <noriko(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
>  Hi
>
>  I can not find some strings below in PO file which are appeared in
>  English at the above. Looking in some other languages, those strings are
>  appeared in English as well, even those languages are all 100% translated.
>  Where can I find them to translate?
>
>  I believe that this site is fetching latest translation periodically,
>  but how often?
>
>  [http://stg.fedoraproject.org/ja/get-fedora]
>  Other Options
>      *  Formats: DVD ISOs, Physical Media
>      * Architectures: 64-bit, PPC, and others
>      * Desktops: KDE, XFCE, GNOME, and others
>      * Spins: Electronics Lab, Education, and others
>
>  o The section "Other Options", Formats, Architectures, Desktops, Spins
>  exist in PO and have all been translated. But their descriptions such as
>  'DVD ISOs, Physical Media', '64-bit PPC, and others' etc can not be
>  found in PO file and left in English.
>
>  Export Regulations
>  By clicking on and downloading Fedora, you agree to comply with the
>  following terms and conditions:
>  Read full export regulations
>
>  o 'Export Regulations' exists in PO and has been translated. But the
>  description followed can not be found in PO and left in English.
>
>  [http://stg.fedoraproject.org/ja/get-help]
>  Online Classroom
>  The Fedora IRC Classroom periodically holds classes to help you better
>  use, understand, and manage your Fedora installation. Refer to the
>  Classroom page for more information on upcoming classes, and archives of
>  previous class sessions.
>
>  o 'Online Classroom' exists in PO and has been translated, but the
>  description followed can not be found in PO and left in English.
>
>
>  Regards,
>
>  noriko
>  -- 
Noriko,

The stg.fp.o website is updated hourly. In fact, it should be updated
at about 5 minutes past the hour.

Export regulations is purposely not translated. This is for a legal reasons [1].

I looked at the ja.po file and it is translated. I just looked at the
stg.fp.o website and its showing in japanese. The text may have been
translated just after the last update. On a side note, there are 46
languages and only 11 have that specific text translated.

I look at the files and we've somehow missed making that text
translatable. :( This includes the Formats, Architectures, Desktops,
Activities tabs along with the other pieces of text you've mentioned.
We could add it but it will definitely break the current string freeze
in effect.

[1] = http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/websites/2010-March/007701.html

Sijis

[Noriko Mizumoto]

Sijis Aviles さんは書きました:
>  On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 10:16 PM, noriko
> <noriko(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I can not find some strings below in PO file which are appeared in
> > English at the above. Looking in some other languages, those strings are
> > appeared in English as well, even those languages are all 100% translated.
> > Where can I find them to translate?
> >
> > I believe that this site is fetching latest translation periodically,
> > but how often?
> >
> > [http://stg.fedoraproject.org/ja/get-fedora]
> > Other Options
> >     *  Formats: DVD ISOs, Physical Media
> >     * Architectures: 64-bit, PPC, and others
> >     * Desktops: KDE, XFCE, GNOME, and others
> >     * Spins: Electronics Lab, Education, and others
> >
> > o The section "Other Options", Formats, Architectures, Desktops, Spins
> > exist in PO and have all been translated. But their descriptions such as
> > 'DVD ISOs, Physical Media', '64-bit PPC, and others' etc can not be
> > found in PO file and left in English.
> >
> > Export Regulations
> > By clicking on and downloading Fedora, you agree to comply with the
> > following terms and conditions:
> > Read full export regulations
> >
> > o 'Export Regulations' exists in PO and has been translated. But the
> > description followed can not be found in PO and left in English.
> >
> > [http://stg.fedoraproject.org/ja/get-help]
> > Online Classroom
> > The Fedora IRC Classroom periodically holds classes to help you better
> > use, understand, and manage your Fedora installation. Refer to the
> > Classroom page for more information on upcoming classes, and archives of
> > previous class sessions.
> >
> > o 'Online Classroom' exists in PO and has been translated, but the
> > description followed can not be found in PO and left in English.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > noriko
> > --
>  
>  Noriko,
>  
>  The stg.fp.o website is updated hourly. In fact, it should be updated
>  at about 5 minutes past the hour. 
Great! thank you.

>  
>  Export regulations is purposely not translated. This is for a legal reasons [1].
Aha! got it, I remember now.
Will you please remove this string of 'Export Regulations' from PO file, 
so that for next release all languages can follow same leaving in English?

>  
>  I looked at the ja.po file and it is translated. I just looked at the
>  stg.fp.o website and its showing in japanese. The text may have been
>  translated just after the last update. On a side note, there are 46
>  languages and only 11 have that specific text translated.
>  
>  I look at the files and we've somehow missed making that text
>  translatable. :( This includes the Formats, Architectures, Desktops,
>  Activities tabs along with the other pieces of text you've mentioned.
>  We could add it but it will definitely break the current string freeze
>  in effect. 
Indeed, but these pages are very important for Fedora users and I like 
to have them translated. Not sure whether other translators are happy or 
unhappy to have string freeze break.

How you think, translators?

noriko

>  
>  [1] = http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/websites/2010-March/007701.html
>  
>  Sijis
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[Piotr Drąg]

W dniu 05.05.2010 06:37, noriko pisze:
>  Sijis Aviles さんは書きました:
> > I look at the files and we've somehow missed making that text
> > translatable. :( This includes the Formats, Architectures, Desktops,
> > Activities tabs along with the other pieces of text you've mentioned.
> > We could add it but it will definitely break the current string freeze
> > in effect.
>  Indeed, but these pages are very important for Fedora users and I like
>  to have them translated. Not sure whether other translators are happy or
>  unhappy to have string freeze break.
>
>  How you think, translators?
>  
Marking a message for translation that was previously not marked for
translation by accident is *not* a string freeze break. [1] So, this is
+10 from me. ;)

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N_Freezes#string_freeze

-- 
Piotr Drąg
http://raven.pmail.pl

[Máirín Duffy]

On Tue, 2010-05-04 at 22:48 -0500, Sijis Aviles wrote:
>  I look at the files and we've somehow missed making that text
>  translatable. :( This includes the Formats, Architectures, Desktops,
>  Activities tabs along with the other pieces of text you've mentioned.
>  We could add it but it will definitely break the current string freeze
>  in effect. 
The impact to the user experience on our site in having the new design
available I think is worth breaking string freeze. The get Fedora pae is
one of the most complained-about pages on our website and the redesign
goes a long way to address the issues users have been complaining about
for so long.

What do the translators think?

~m

[Domingo Becker]

2010/5/5 Máirín Duffy <duffy(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;:
>  On Tue, 2010-05-04 at 22:48 -0500, Sijis Aviles wrote:
> > I look at the files and we've somehow missed making that text
> > translatable. :( This includes the Formats, Architectures, Desktops,
> > Activities tabs along with the other pieces of text you've mentioned.
> > We could add it but it will definitely break the current string freeze
> > in effect.
>
>  The impact to the user experience on our site in having the new design
>  available I think is worth breaking string freeze. The get Fedora pae is
>  one of the most complained-about pages on our website and the redesign
>  goes a long way to address the issues users have been complaining about
>  for so long.
>
>  What do the translators think?
>  
+1  es-ES

[Noriko Mizumoto]

Domingo Becker さんは書きました:
>  2010/5/5 Máirín Duffy <duffy(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;:
> > On Tue, 2010-05-04 at 22:48 -0500, Sijis Aviles wrote:
> >> I look at the files and we've somehow missed making that text
> >> translatable. :( This includes the Formats, Architectures, Desktops,
> >> Activities tabs along with the other pieces of text you've mentioned.
> >> We could add it but it will definitely break the current string freeze
> >> in effect.
> > The impact to the user experience on our site in having the new design
> > available I think is worth breaking string freeze. The get Fedora pae is
> > one of the most complained-about pages on our website and the redesign
> > goes a long way to address the issues users have been complaining about
> > for so long.
> >
> > What do the translators think?
> >
>  
>  +1  es-ES 
+1 ja-JP

[Thomas Canniot]

Quoting noriko <noriko(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;:

>  Domingo Becker さんは書きました:
> > 2010/5/5 Máirín Duffy <duffy(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;:
> >> On Tue, 2010-05-04 at 22:48 -0500, Sijis Aviles wrote:
> >>> I look at the files and we've somehow missed making that text
> >>> translatable. :( This includes the Formats, Architectures, Desktops,
> >>> Activities tabs along with the other pieces of text you've mentioned.
> >>> We could add it but it will definitely break the current string freeze
> >>> in effect.
> >> The impact to the user experience on our site in having the new design
> >> available I think is worth breaking string freeze. The get Fedora pae is
> >> one of the most complained-about pages on our website and the redesign
> >> goes a long way to address the issues users have been complaining about
> >> for so long.
> >>
> >> What do the translators think?
> >>
> >
> > +1  es-ES
>
>  +1 ja-JP 
+1 fr-FR

[Tian Shixiong]

+1 zh_CN

On 5/6/10, Thomas Canniot <thomas.canniot(a)mrtomlinux.org&gt; wrote:
>  Quoting noriko <noriko(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;:
>
> > Domingo Becker さんは書きました:
> >> 2010/5/5 Máirín Duffy <duffy(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;:
> >>> On Tue, 2010-05-04 at 22:48 -0500, Sijis Aviles wrote:
> >>>> I look at the files and we've somehow missed making that text
> >>>> translatable. :( This includes the Formats, Architectures, Desktops,
> >>>> Activities tabs along with the other pieces of text you've
> mentioned.
> >>>> We could add it but it will definitely break the current string freeze
> >>>> in effect.
> >>> The impact to the user experience on our site in having the new design
> >>> available I think is worth breaking string freeze. The get Fedora pae is
> >>> one of the most complained-about pages on our website and the redesign
> >>> goes a long way to address the issues users have been complaining about
> >>> for so long.
> >>>
> >>> What do the translators think?
> >>>
> >>
> >> +1  es-ES
> >
> > +1 ja-JP
>
>  +1 fr-FR
>
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Tiansworld

[Sérgio Mesquita]

+1 pt_PT

On 05/06/2010 08:02 AM, tiansworld wrote:
>  +1 zh_CN
>
>  On 5/6/10, Thomas Canniot<thomas.canniot(a)mrtomlinux.org>  wrote:
>     
> > Quoting noriko<noriko(a)fedoraproject.org>:
> >
> >      
> >> Domingo Becker さんは書きました:
> >>        
> >>> 2010/5/5 Máirín Duffy<duffy(a)fedoraproject.org>:
> >>>          
> >>>> On Tue, 2010-05-04 at 22:48 -0500, Sijis Aviles wrote:
> >>>>            
> >>>>> I look at the files and we've somehow missed making that text
> >>>>> translatable. :( This includes the Formats, Architectures, Desktops,
> >>>>> Activities tabs along with the other pieces of text you've
> mentioned.
> >>>>> We could add it but it will definitely break the current string
> freeze
> >>>>> in effect.
> >>>>>              
> >>>> The impact to the user experience on our site in having the new design
> >>>> available I think is worth breaking string freeze. The get Fedora pae is
> >>>> one of the most complained-about pages on our website and the redesign
> >>>> goes a long way to address the issues users have been complaining about
> >>>> for so long.
> >>>>
> >>>> What do the translators think?
> >>>>
> >>>>            
> >>> +1  es-ES
> >>>          
> >> +1 ja-JP
> >>        
> > +1 fr-FR
> >
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> > trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
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> >      
>

[Sijis Aviles]

2010/5/6 Sérgio Mesquita <sergiomesquita(a)cm-porto.pt&gt;:
>  +1 pt_PT
>
>  On 05/06/2010 08:02 AM, tiansworld wrote:
> > +1 zh_CN
> >
> > On 5/6/10, Thomas Canniot&lt;thomas.canniot(a)mrtomlinux.org&gt;  wrote:
> >
> >> Quoting noriko&lt;noriko(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Domingo Becker さんは書きました:
> >>>
> >>>> 2010/5/5 Máirín Duffy&lt;duffy(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, 2010-05-04 at 22:48 -0500, Sijis Aviles wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I look at the files and we've somehow missed making that
> text
> >>>>>> translatable. :( This includes the Formats, Architectures,
> Desktops,
> >>>>>> Activities tabs along with the other pieces of text you've
> mentioned.
> >>>>>> We could add it but it will definitely break the current string
> freeze
> >>>>>> in effect.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> The impact to the user experience on our site in having the new
> design
> >>>>> available I think is worth breaking string freeze. The get Fedora pae
> is
> >>>>> one of the most complained-about pages on our website and the
> redesign
> >>>>> goes a long way to address the issues users have been complaining
> about
> >>>>> for so long.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What do the translators think?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> +1  es-ES
> >>>>
> >>> +1 ja-JP
> >>>
> >> +1 fr-FR
> >> 
Thank you all.

I did update it so that the tabs are translatable. Toshio
(abadger1999) notified me that some still some filler content. I'm
sorry, but i had to make minor edits as the content was just flat out
incorrect (32 bit text in 64 bit sections, etc). It's about a dozen
edits.

Let me know if there is something else i missed.

Thanks again Translators!

Sijis

[Thomas Canniot]

Le jeudi 06 mai 2010 à 17:43 -0500, Sijis Aviles a écrit :
>  2010/5/6 Sérgio Mesquita <sergiomesquita(a)cm-porto.pt&gt;:
>  > +1 pt_PT
>  >
>  > On 05/06/2010 08:02 AM, tiansworld wrote:
>  >> +1 zh_CN
>  >>
>  >> On 5/6/10, Thomas Canniot&lt;thomas.canniot(a)mrtomlinux.org&gt;  wrote:
>  >>
>  >>> Quoting noriko&lt;noriko(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;:
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>>> Domingo Becker さんは書きました:
>  >>>>
>  >>>>> 2010/5/5 Máirín Duffy&lt;duffy(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;:
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>>> On Tue, 2010-05-04 at 22:48 -0500, Sijis Aviles wrote:
>  >>>>>>
>  >>>>>>> I look at the files and we've somehow missed making that
> text
>  >>>>>>> translatable. :( This includes the Formats, Architectures,
> Desktops,
>  >>>>>>> Activities tabs along with the other pieces of text
> you've mentioned.
>  >>>>>>> We could add it but it will definitely break the current
> string freeze
>  >>>>>>> in effect.
>  >>>>>>>
>  >>>>>> The impact to the user experience on our site in having the new
> design
>  >>>>>> available I think is worth breaking string freeze. The get
> Fedora pae is
>  >>>>>> one of the most complained-about pages on our website and the
> redesign
>  >>>>>> goes a long way to address the issues users have been
> complaining about
>  >>>>>> for so long.
>  >>>>>>
>  >>>>>> What do the translators think?
>  >>>>>>
>  >>>>>>
>  >>>>> +1  es-ES
>  >>>>>
>  >>>> +1 ja-JP
>  >>>>
>  >>> +1 fr-FR
>  >>>
>  
>  Thank you all.
>  
>  I did update it so that the tabs are translatable. Toshio
>  (abadger1999) notified me that some still some filler content. I'm
>  sorry, but i had to make minor edits as the content was just flat out
>  incorrect (32 bit text in 64 bit sections, etc). It's about a dozen
>  edits.
>  
>  Let me know if there is something else i missed.
>   
Maybe this one :)

"Slow internet? No internet? You can get a copy of Fedora media sent via
postal mail through local and online vendors, as well as via the Fedora
Free Media program."

http://stg.fedoraproject.org/fr/get-fedora-options#formats

Regards;

Thomas

[Sijis Aviles]

On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Thomas Canniot
<thomas.canniot(a)mrtomlinux.org&gt; wrote:
>  Le jeudi 06 mai 2010 à 17:43 -0500, Sijis Aviles a écrit :
>
>  Maybe this one :)
>
>  "Slow internet? No internet? You can get a copy of Fedora media sent via
>  postal mail through local and online vendors, as well as via the Fedora
>  Free Media program."
>
>  http://stg.fedoraproject.org/fr/get-fedora-options#formats
>
>  Regards;
>
>  Thomas
>  
Ok - that string has been added along with "Get Fedora now", as
someone else also mentioned it in our #fedora-websites channel.

Thanks again all,

Sijis

[Thomas Canniot]

Le samedi 08 mai 2010 à 09:30 -0500, Sijis Aviles a écrit :
>  On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Thomas Canniot
>  <thomas.canniot(a)mrtomlinux.org&gt; wrote:
>  > Le jeudi 06 mai 2010 à 17:43 -0500, Sijis Aviles a écrit :
>  >
>  > Maybe this one :)
>  >
>  > "Slow internet? No internet? You can get a copy of Fedora media sent via
>  > postal mail through local and online vendors, as well as via the Fedora
>  > Free Media program."
>  >
>  > http://stg.fedoraproject.org/fr/get-fedora-options#formats
>  >
>  > Regards;
>  >
>  > Thomas
>  >
>  
>  Ok - that string has been added along with "Get Fedora now", as
>  someone else also mentioned it in our #fedora-websites channel.
>  
>  Thanks again all,
>   
As well, I notices the "PC Compatible 32-bit" string is not in the .pot
file whereas the "PC Compatible 64-bit" is.

Could you please fix this ?

Thanks a lot :)

[Sijis Aviles]

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Thomas Canniot
<thomas.canniot(a)mrtomlinux.org&gt; wrote:
>  As well, I notices the "PC Compatible 32-bit" string is not in the .pot
>  file whereas the "PC Compatible 64-bit" is.
>
>  Could you please fix this ?
>
>  Thanks a lot :)
>  
Its been added. :)

[Miloš Komarčević]

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 11:43 PM, Sijis Aviles <sijis(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
>  Let me know if there is something else i missed.
>  
Still missing the Online Classroom description.

Regards,
Miloš

[Sijis Aviles]

On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 4:09 AM, Miloš Komarčević <kmilos(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 11:43 PM, Sijis Aviles
> <sijis(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
> >
> > Let me know if there is something else i missed.
> >
>
>  Still missing the Online Classroom description.
>
>  Regards,
>  Miloš
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It's been added.

Thanks again all for letting us know about these missing string. We
apologize that it hasn't been as polished as previous releases.

Sijis

[Miloš Komarčević]

On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 4:33 AM, Sijis Aviles <sijis(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
>  On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 4:09 AM, Miloš Komarčević
> <kmilos(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
> > On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 11:43 PM, Sijis Aviles <sijis(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
> >>
> >> Let me know if there is something else i missed.
> >>
> >
> > Still missing the Online Classroom description.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Miloš
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> > trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/trans
>
>  It's been added.
>
>  Thanks again all for letting us know about these missing string. We
>  apologize that it hasn't been as polished as previous releases.
>  
Now we're missing the description strings for the newly added
"Activities" spins.

Also the SPARC team link is missing the closing </a> tag, or
alternatively being marked up as <ulink>.

Regards,
Miloš

[Sijis Aviles]

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Miloš Komarčević <kmilos(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 4:33 AM, Sijis Aviles
> <sijis(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
> > On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 4:09 AM, Miloš Komarčević <kmilos(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
> >> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 11:43 PM, Sijis Aviles <sijis(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Let me know if there is something else i missed.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Still missing the Online Classroom description.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Miloš
> >> --
> >> trans mailing list
> >> trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> >> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/trans
> >
> > It's been added.
> >
> > Thanks again all for letting us know about these missing string. We
> > apologize that it hasn't been as polished as previous releases.
> >
>
>  Now we're missing the description strings for the newly added
>  "Activities" spins.
>
>  Also the SPARC team link is missing the closing </a> tag, or
>  alternatively being marked up as <ulink>.
>
>  Regards,
>  Miloš
>  -- 
Yes, the SPARC string was missing an ending <a> tag. That's been
updated accordingly.

I've also added the new strings for those spins. I added them last
night but didn't update the pot files in case I needed to edit the
text a bit (which i didn't).

Thanks again for noting these things.

Sijis