Re: Minutes from the Fedora L10N coordination meeting
написане Thu, 17 Feb 2011 18:22:38 +0200, Thomas Canniot
<thomas.canniot(a)mrtomlinux.org>:
Le 17/02/2011 16:12, Paul W. Frields a écrit :
> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 02:35:33PM +1000, noriko wrote:
>> Mike Hideo さんは書きました:
>>> On 02/17/2011 10:45 AM, Domingo Becker wrote:
>>>> 2011/2/16 Mike Hideo<mhideo(a)redhat.com>:
>>>>> On 02/17/2011 12:48 AM, Jared K. Smith wrote:
>>>>>> Today we held a meeting to coordinate some changes to our L10N
>>>>>> process. We had representatives present from the L10N team, the
>>>>>> Infrastructure team, FESCo, the Docs team, as well as the Fedora
>>>>>> Project Leader and the Fedora Program Manager.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The topic of discussion was moving from a Fedora-hosted instance
of
>>>>>> Transifex (currently on version 0.7) to Transifex.net.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Why the rush? F16 seems a more reasonable timeframe.
>>>> It was discussed in a Fedora L10N meeting last Feb 15 [1], and we
>>>> decided that it's better to do it now.
>>>>
>>>> [1]
>>>>
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-02-15/fedora-meeting...
>>>
>>> It takes great courage to disagree and to carefully weigh the impact
>>> and
>>> alternatives with so many board members in a localization meeting.
>>>
>>>
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-02-15/fedora-meeting...
>>
>> There were eight +1s voting for working system/workflow, since we only
>> have broken transifex but no alternate option to choose on fp.o but the
>> move.
>>
>> Please notice that two +1s voted with the condition of exit plan (aka,
>> a
>> plan to get the system back on fp.o in the future), and another +1 with
>> some hesitation stated.
>
> Mike, thanks for speaking up about your concerns. Not being a member
> of either the Board or the L10n steering group, I attended simply as
> an interested third party who wants to see translators able to do
> great work in Fedora. I'm happy to see everyone involved in this
> discussion has the needs of translators as their top priority.
>
> Currently the biggest pain translators have is unfixed bugs in the
> Fedora-hosted Tx 0.7 instance. Upstream (Transifex.net, or Tx.n)
> continues to outpace us with new releases and enhancements that make
> translators' lives easier and the platform more useful. The largest
> issue is not the migration from a Fedora-hosted instance to Tx.n, but
> simply making a newer version available to translators so they can
> work more efficiently.
>
> The vast majority of the pain involved with transition is needed just
> so we can have effective translations for F15. The migration to Tx.n
> is a way to make this transition happen faster, and in itself
> hopefully should cause little pain to translators other than an
> account signup.
>
> FWIW, I support this move since it will help the community's
> efficiency. At the same time, my concerns (as I stated in the
> meeting) are around having speedy communication with stakeholders,
> including but not limited to Fedora's hosted project owners. Once the
> migration plan is in place, we expect an announcement with details to
> devel-announce. Progress can be followed in #fedora-l10n.
>
I also think this was the thing to do. It's also great to see that we
are able to take a fast & right decision.
Thomas
Move translations on a half-baked server in a day of string freeze and a
month before deadline... It's a very fast & right decision.
Because of the decisions like this it was really a good thing for me not
using Fedora.
Just my 5 cents.