Some "bugs" in portuguese translation

[João Diogo]

Hi!

In some portuguese po files (mainly on setroubleshoot tip-plugins), many
fuzzy translations doesn't seem to match the original texts.
Also, in some cases, again in fuzzy translations, "$SOURCE" is changed
to "$SOURCE_PATH".
Should I correct these?

And sorry for not posting to the fedora-trans-pt list, but I think the
list admin (Rui Gouveia?) hasn't accepted me yet. (Or am I doing
something wrong? I don't think so...)

Thanks in advance.

[Kris Thomsen]

fuzzy-strings are strings that have changed since last time they have been
translated.
Så translate them correct and remove the fuzzy-mark :)

// Kris
Danish Maintainer

2009/4/2 João Diogo
> Hi!
>
> In some portuguese po files (mainly on setroubleshoot tip-plugins), many
> fuzzy translations doesn't seem to match the original texts.
> Also, in some cases, again in fuzzy translations, "$SOURCE" is changed
> to "$SOURCE_PATH".
> Should I correct these?
>
> And sorry for not posting to the fedora-trans-pt list, but I think the
> list admin (Rui Gouveia?) hasn't accepted me yet. (Or am I doing
> something wrong? I don't think so...)
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
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[João Diogo]

Thanks :)
There were so many wrong strings, I really dind't know if I should
correct them, hehe.

Qui, 2009-04-02 às 19:02 +0200, Kris Thomsen escreveu:
> fuzzy-strings are strings that have changed since last time they have
> been translated.
> Så translate them correct and remove the fuzzy-mark :)
>
> // Kris
> Danish Maintainer
>
> 2009/4/2 João Diogo 
>         Hi!
>     In some portuguese po files (mainly on setroubleshoot
>     tip-plugins), many
>     fuzzy translations doesn't seem to match the original texts.
>     Also, in some cases, again in fuzzy translations, "$SOURCE" is
>     changed
>     to "$SOURCE_PATH".
>     Should I correct these?
>
>     And sorry for not posting to the fedora-trans-pt list, but I
>     think the
>     list admin (Rui Gouveia?) hasn't accepted me yet. (Or am I
>     doing
>     something wrong? I don't think so...)
>
>     Thanks in advance.
>
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[Rui Gouveia]

Hello,

João Diogo escreveu:
> Hi!
>
> In some portuguese po files (mainly on setroubleshoot tip-plugins), many
> fuzzy translations doesn't seem to match the original texts.
> Also, in some cases, again in fuzzy translations, "$SOURCE" is changed
> to "$SOURCE_PATH".
> Should I correct these?

I think you should read some instruction before you proceed. Try the
Brasilean help page.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Teams/BrazilianPortuguese/PassoAPasso

It's very good... better than the chapter 3 of the Translation Quick
Start Guide. ;)
> And sorry for not posting to the fedora-trans-pt list, but I think the
> list admin (Rui Gouveia?) hasn't accepted me yet.

I'm not the admin. :) sorry.
I believe you are not the first one to have problems with our list (are
any sysadmin reading this? HELP!)
> (Or am I doing something wrong? I don't think so...)

I'm going to register another address and let you know.
> Thanks in advance.

Thanks for the help.
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[João Diogo]

Qui, 2009-04-02 às 23:53 +0100, Rui Gouveia escreveu:
> Hello,
>
> João Diogo escreveu:
> > Hi!
> >
> > In some portuguese po files (mainly on setroubleshoot tip-plugins), many
> > fuzzy translations doesn't seem to match the original texts.
> > Also, in some cases, again in fuzzy translations, "$SOURCE" is changed
> > to "$SOURCE_PATH".
> > Should I correct these?
>
> I think you should read some instruction before you proceed. Try the
> Brasilean help page.
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Teams/BrazilianPortuguese/PassoAPasso
>
> It's very good... better than the chapter 3 of the Translation Quick
> Start Guide. ;)

[João Diogo]

Qui, 2009-04-02 às 23:53 +0100, Rui Gouveia escreveu:
> Hello,
>
> João Diogo escreveu:
> > Hi!
> >
> > In some portuguese po files (mainly on setroubleshoot tip-plugins), many
> > fuzzy translations doesn't seem to match the original texts.
> > Also, in some cases, again in fuzzy translations, "$SOURCE" is changed
> > to "$SOURCE_PATH".
> > Should I correct these?
>
> I think you should read some instruction before you proceed. Try the
> Brasilean help page.
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Teams/BrazilianPortuguese/PassoAPasso
>
> It's very good... better than the chapter 3 of the Translation Quick
> Start Guide. ;)

Thanks for the page.
It doesn't say anything about "$SOURCE", "$SOURCE_PATH" or fuzzy
translation which just doesn't match (like this one:
"Stopping·Condor·daemons:·" ->
"A·parar·os·servidores·do·Xen:·" [stopping Xen daemons: ], found on
initscripts.

I'll correct them.

Oh, I sent a blank message (with only a quote)... I shouldn't try
keyboard combinations -.-"

[Rui Gouveia]

Hi João Diogo,

Sorry for the delay in the response.

João Diogo escreveu:
> > > In some portuguese po files (mainly on setroubleshoot tip-plugins), many
> > > fuzzy translations doesn't seem to match the original texts.
> > > Also, in some cases, again in fuzzy translations, "$SOURCE" is changed
> > > to "$SOURCE_PATH".
> > > Should I correct these?

First. In any PO file you have 3 numbers: . The translated strings, the
fuzzy strings and the untranslated strings.

The first and third are self-explanatory. The fuzzy strings are special.
Assume they don't count. They appear when some software automatically
tries to translate the untranslated strings. For example, the poedit
with the built in Memory Translation feature. So, if the software thinks
it has a match, it adds it to the file, BUT, and this is important, it's
marks the string as fuzzy, read "Can't be trusted"! You have to manually
verify each one. Most of the times you have to adjust the "suggested"
translation ;)

Finally, regarding your question. You are right. Changed it. For
exemple, the string:

87 #: ../src/allow_daemons_dump_core.py:28
  88 msgid ""
  89 "\n"
  90 "    SELinux prevented $SOURCE from writing $TARGET_PATH.\n"
  91 "    "
  92 msgstr ""
  93 "\n"
  94 "    O SELinux impediu o $SOURCE_PATH de escrever em $TARGET_PATH.\n"
  95 "    "

is wrong. The original string rules. The translation should be:

93 "\n"
  94 "    O SELinux impediu o $SOURCE de escrever em $TARGET_PATH.\n"
  95 "    "

Hope this helps.

BTW. It's easy for me to explain this in Portuguese. (And the other guys
shouldn't be bothered with this Portuguese coaching.) ;) . So, if you
have more doubts (and, we all have), you can use my IM
([e-mail]).

Keep up the good work.